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pickeringred
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From:euk
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 posted 31-05-2002 13:05    
I cant see what the problem is, if by rebranding ourselves we leave behind years of underachieving and failure, then I am all for it. Well Done JB.
There will always be folk who won't/can't embrace change. Stick in the muds who live in the past, little englanders. Get a life you critics, today is the dawn of change, To pinch Tones favourite tune "Things can only get better"
JB many thanks ignore the knockers they will by the start of the season be in the minority, if they want to boycott the first home let them, we have to move forward, either these people can enjoy the ride or they can live in the past.
I remember everyone said that Tony Blair couldnot re-brand the labour party, he did and I as an X Tory voter now vote for him, another example of how life changes. With all the problems at elland road I think we can pick up many leeds fans who will gradually tire of not qualifying for the champions league.
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LondonVillage Red
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From:A small village just south of Harrogate.
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posted 31-05-2002 13:13
Well done for that knee-jerk reaction to people who hold a different point of view from yourself.Are you sure you don't vote Tory anymore?
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stgeli
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From:The wilds of North Yorkshire
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posted 31-05-2002 13:54
That is such a New Labour (read Tory) opinion, pickeringred. Just because someone doesn't agree with something then they must be wrong.
It looks like the overwhelming opinion of those who frequent this board is that the new badge sucks (better get used to all those American phrases). Since we probably represent the whole spectrum of YCFC fans then it will be safe to assume that the non-web enabled supporters will think the same way.
This whole business has been a bit of a PR disaster for JB. Unfortunately for him I fear it will get worse and overshadow all of the extremely positive work he's been doing over the past months.
Solution? Just get rid of the big white SC!
Simple really. 
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kroy
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From:South Bank, York
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posted 31-05-2002 14:03
Err, I don't think anybody has any objections to change in general.
Only when the change ends up being a poorer version of what went before giving the impression it was just for the sake of it!
Oh, and if that's what you get for a 4 figure sum (£9,999?), then we should have paid more or not bothered in the first place. A thin chequered line under the name 'Minstermen' on the old logo will have said the same as the new one in a much more striking way!
Sorry for the way this post seems to have ended up on the wrong thread - I'll go to another one!
Just don't assume that if someone doesn't like A change, they are not TOTALLY against all change.
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Dynamo Kebab
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From:Across river from N. Yorks
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 31-05-2002 14:04
I like it. And it's nothing to do with politics. Just personal taste. But I'm obviously in the minority.
But aren't all forward thinking visionaries in the minority?
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LondonVillage Red
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From:A small village just south of Harrogate.
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posted 31-05-2002 14:52
I like to think of myself as forward thinking.But what's forward thinking about soccer?
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DeeUU
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From:Wollongong, NSW, Australia
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 31-05-2002 14:55
Not anymore Dynamo the great Tony Blair and his mates expelled us all. 
Which by the way Pickeringred, is bordering on what you are suggesting.. i.e. When Tony and his suits and spin doctors hi jacked MY party (I'd been a member since I was 15) their philosophy (if you dare call it that) was if you can't win the argument close the debate, weed out dissenters and if that doesn't work make the party such an anathema to them that it's hard to tell who were the real Tories.
I am not suggesting JB is like President Tony...or Michael Knighton either
Those people who post here regularly who like the badge, good for you I know that you are fair minded people and that you appreciate that of those of us who hate it have the right to hold an opinion and vice versa.
Pickeringred I am extremely insulted with your comment about little Englanders, I AM not and NEVER will be that narrow minded and I don't think any of the other folk who visit here regualarly are either. Maybe you should have a look at yourself..and be honest a vote for the REAL Tories next time round as well.
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pickeringred
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From:euk
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posted 31-05-2002 15:40
Well well the real colours come out, cut the waffle you just dont like change. Deeuu admits it outright, the labour party changed but he has continued to live in the past, The labour party didnot sacrafice principles, but moved with the times, 2 choices stay in opposition 4 ever, or change and become electable. Hobsons choice
JB has been faced with the same problem as Blair do you continue to be third division fodder or do you aim higher, for the forward thinking business man with a brain it obvious we must move forward, to the little englander and his old views, then change is bad blair is bad new club badges are bad, trying to promote york city is bad etc etc etc I could go on, if you dont like it, we aint bothered because you are in the minority and will not be missed, but I bet within 6 months you will see the positives and not be so negative.
So basically to all of you who dont want change, tough, change is on its way with or without you.
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DeeUU
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posted 31-05-2002 16:04
Well if you knew me you'd realise that your comments must be about the largest pile of excreta ever laid on this forum...but you don't, so why should I worry about the views of an opportunist glory seeker?
Change is excellent, you should try it sometime growing up is such an invigorating experience.
We all want change, we all want a better City. All we expect is that our opinions get listened to. I would say a thread with 80 + posts should provide JB and the Club with a go cross section of opinion, all we want is some consultation?
I am neither a fair weather supporter or voter, you are entitled to you views, ludicrous as I believe them to be I will defend your right to hold them. You it would appear do not share that democratic view. I feel sorry for you.
If by pointing out the SC can be misinterpretted as "Stockport County" is being a ludite then I am afraid I am one and proud of it.
Oh by the way, Labour was ONLY unelectable NATIONALLY. In the 1980s Liverpool City Council was taken from the Liberals by Labour and held comfortably until Kinnockio and his buddies closed down Liverpool Constituency Labour Party for building houses and creating Jobs i.e. bringing about CHANGE! Liverpool is now Liberal run again....nice one new Labour!
There are millions of other examples but why waste my time on someone who obviously takes their political opinions from Bernard Manning in the Sport?
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LondonVillage Red
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From:A small village just south of Harrogate.
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 31-05-2002 16:04
Who the fcuk do you think you are PR?I'm not against change and have said so on many occasions.This is a FORUM for discussion.If you don't like what people say,feel free to disagree but don't pin labels on them.How does not liking a new badge equate to wanting City to remain in the 3rd division oh wise one?
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pickeringred
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From:euk
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posted 31-05-2002 17:07
Oh london village and deeuuu you only want change if you agree with it, look at the bigger picture.
"opportunist glory seeker?" who was that intended for me or JB.
I assume it was for me, but the way you express yourself is maybe ok for the tap room of your choice, but not the written word.
Why the obvious distaste for Tony Blair, he is the chairman of your team, oh I get it, he introduced change.
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oniongravy
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From:Weeds, West Workshire
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted 31-05-2002 17:13
PickeringRed speaks....All change is good, no change is bad, all change is good, no change is bad, all change is good, no change is bad, two legs good, four legs bad...
I'm still waiting for your argument? Why change YCFC to YCSC? Please explain the benefits.
Oh wait, I remember: all change is good, no change is bad...altogether now... 
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Dynamo Kebab
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From:Across river from N. Yorks
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 31-05-2002 17:15
Now then calm down. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on the badge, and I can respect the obvious majority's feelings on it, even though I think it's OK.
But isn't it great to be arguing about the future rather than worrying about survival!
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DeeUU
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From:Wollongong, NSW, Australia
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posted 31-05-2002 17:23
Yeah Dynamo, but as Oniongravy says
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Originally posted by oniongravy:
PickeringRed speaks....All change is good, no change is bad, all change is good, no change is bad, all change is good, no change is bad, two legs good, four legs bad...
I'm still waiting for your argument? Why change YCFC to YCSC? Please explain the benefits.
This guy is just spouting crap and clearly demonstrates he has less tolerance than a certain litigating Turd who will remain nameless because if I put D****** C**** Laurence or Ben will change it to Mr X
Pickeringred if everything in your garden is rosey why enter into a debate that you already know all the answers to? Now that is really dumb.
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miniminster
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posted 31-05-2002 17:40
At the end of the day JOHN owns York City & he can do with it what he likes!
He surely wouldn't just change our badge & put an S on it for the sake of it!
He's got a master plan!
He will have read all the post's & know that it's not very popular!
Time to move on? i'm sure we can live with the badge, If the end result means York City is a stronger club for it! we'll just have to lump it!
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