Red & Blue Net
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Disgrace

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    York City FC discussion forums Forum Index -> General Chat
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Tommi_J
Red & Blue NET FC


Joined: 02 Nov 2003
Posts: 3478

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:39 pm    Post subject: Disgrace Reply with quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7063261.stm

Football is at an intolerable level.

The people in control of it are so out of touch with hardcore fans that it's untrue.
_________________
When we're good they never remember...when we're bad they never forget.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website MSN Messenger
Andy Mac's Fake Tan
Senior First Team regular


Joined: 19 Apr 2006
Posts: 629
Location: YO30

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It think it's a great idea. I'd love to go over to the US again and watch a game of soccer.

Man Utd v Chelsea in Giant's Stadium would be awesome.
_________________
Thanks to Freddie, I'm a sexual spastic.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
SMP
A Northern Soul


Joined: 15 Aug 2002
Posts: 1838
Location: Shed Seven

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant see it happening and thats only because of whats happened at City with prior experience. Batchelor never did fully tap into that american market.....
_________________
www.myspace.com/hotrecruit
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
gster
Assistant Manager


Joined: 30 Jul 2002
Posts: 5037
Location: In Control

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The NFL, aware that its commercial potential is restricted by the fact that it is limited to the US market, is actively trying to develop new markets overseas. It has already held a game in Mexico City and is planning to play a game in China as well as in London. NFL Europe didn't really cut it, but I think it's not impossible that there may be a London "expansion franchise" in the NFL in 10-20 years time.

I think it's more likely that Premiership teams might play each other in a pre-season friendly in the US than a regular game (as was the case with the NFL in the 80s) - it's not quite the same in that they wouldn't be trying to "grow" the sport as the NFL are doing, but rather they would be trying to capture a new international support base for individual teams, as they are already doing in Asia.
_________________
As his drinking lusting & hunger for power became known to more people, demands to do something about this outrageous man became louder & louder
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
AcombDave
First team captain


Joined: 24 Feb 2006
Posts: 3776
Location: Holgate and usually anywhere except Wembley!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Disgrace Reply with quote

Tommi_J wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7063261.stm

Football is at an intolerable level.

The people in control of it are so out of touch with hardcore fans that it's untrue.


But Tommi the premiership is and has been nothing like real football for many years - so why not let this happen - after all it is all about TV now (as we are all too aware with the farcical suituation of YC matches being played on Thursday nights and Sunday evenings).

Serious question - if some Serie A matches were played in England would you CONSIDER going to them? I know that I would.

Perhaps it might be a good idea to play a few foreign games on English grounds (Wembley /Old Trafford etc) and a few Enlish games in Europe? After all fans don't matter now a days!
_________________
How does 1 million minus 500k = 1 million?Answer - ask the Trust Board - because it does when wearing orange tinted glasses.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
andywootton88
First team sub


Joined: 28 Nov 2004
Posts: 240
Location: Returning to the promise land

PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe they are even thinking of doing this. Which premiership side would sacrifice their fans, the '12th man', for the sake of getting some obese, hot dog loving yanks on board. It is disgraceful, the ultimate act of selling out. Why not just pack it up and travel from country to country, why stop at yankland? Let's take it to Africa, then to Asia, mind you we'd have to change the name, something along the lines of Zippo's Premier Circus and throw in a few elephants and trapeze artists at half time that'd be great. Rolling Eyes

Can you hear that noise.........it's the death knell for football. Sacrificing your own loyal fans for the sake of extra sales is ludicrous......ahh it's really infuriating me
Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
_________________
Is it wrong to want to hear the away team cheer when they score a goal at BC?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Frank
First team captain


Joined: 30 Jul 2002
Posts: 3189
Location: York

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Disgrace Reply with quote

AcombDave wrote:
the premiership is and has been nothing like real football for many years


Too true. It (along with similar developments in other countries and the debasement of the European Cup into the "Champions" League) was always no more than a stepping stone to a European League.

This sort of nonsense seems to indicate the money men have now set their sights on a "global product".

As far as I'm concerned they're f*cking welcome to it. If I want a global product I'll buy a Big Mac.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
makingprogress
Senior First Team regular


Joined: 06 Jan 2007
Posts: 695
Location: MCR

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Disgrace Reply with quote

Frank wrote:
As far as I'm concerned they're f*cking welcome to it. If I want a global product I'll buy a Big Mac.


But people buy Big Macs. And lots of people love the all-seated stadiums, international 'stars' and afternoon's "entertainment" that the Premiership provides.*

To ensure a long term future YCFC needs to 'play the game' a little more without losing its character or else face an ageing supporter base propping up the club while moaning about an inexorable decline in their institution. It's kinda like the Church of England.

Anyone got any ideas? I certainly don't. I noticed that there were a large number of primary school kids at BC yesterday but free tickets can't be the end of it.

*I don't. But a majority will.
_________________
Sarah Records never meant anything to me.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Frank
First team captain


Joined: 30 Jul 2002
Posts: 3189
Location: York

PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Disgrace Reply with quote

makingprogress wrote:
But people buy Big Macs. And lots of people love the all-seated stadiums, international 'stars' and afternoon's "entertainment" that the Premiership provides.


Very true, but fewer people buy Big Macs now than a decade ago.

The people seeking to globalise football in the same way they've globalised other forms of entertainment will no doubt be well aware that the bubble will one day burst, but then they'll just shift their capital into something else and not give a flying f*ck about who will be left to pick up the shattered remnants of a once-great game.

To abuse a horticultural metaphor, they're encouraging big green leaves and fantastic flowers at the top of the tree, but ignoring the need for healthy roots to achieve long-term successful growth.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
TCJYork
Red & Blue NET FC


Joined: 29 Jul 2002
Posts: 1226
Location: York/Lancaster

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:07 am    Post subject: Re: Disgrace Reply with quote

Frank wrote:
To abuse a horticultural metaphor, they're encouraging big green leaves and fantastic flowers at the top of the tree, but ignoring the need for healthy roots to achieve long-term successful growth.


I think you'll find a certain Mr. Hedge has copyright on all horticultural metaphors. Wink
_________________
A life without risk is a life not worth living.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    York City FC discussion forums Forum Index -> General Chat All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
 

Copyright Notice: This site is Copyright 1998-2005 and not to be reproduced without permission.
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group