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Russian launch vehicle re-enters over Denver - live on TV :P

 
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Chris_York1
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:16 am    Post subject: Russian launch vehicle re-enters over Denver - live on TV :P Reply with quote

http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=1962661&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Check out the video lower on the page, which was taken as they went live to the helicopter filming it this morning. Pretty awesome.

It wasn't a meteor shower, it was the third stage of the recently launched Russian Soyuz launch vehicle re-entering and burning up, which launched the European spacecraft Corot. A normal event for expended stages of launch vehicles to re-enter and burn up.

Excuse the silly Fox commentary as they went live to the TV images of it burning up.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Russian launch vehicle re-enters over Denver - live on T Reply with quote

Chris_York1 wrote:
It wasn't a meteor shower....

Indeed it wasn't, but there's another story

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Scientists: Object that Crashed Into New Jersey Home Was a Meteorite

from earlier in the week! Other live headlines at the moment:

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: FAO Chris York Reply with quote

As the pracle of all things space..when are the next launches due ? Posted to Tampa later this year for 6 months (beats Iraq !) and fancy a trip over to watch. Last time was there I saw the doomed shuttle taking off but only form outside my workplace in Tampa (impressive even from that distance).
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject: Re: FAO Chris York Reply with quote

mick winn wrote:
As the pracle of all things space..when are the next launches due ? Posted to Tampa later this year for 6 months (beats Iraq !) and fancy a trip over to watch. Last time was there I saw the doomed shuttle taking off but only form outside my workplace in Tampa (impressive even from that distance).


Manned Missions to the International Space Station (Assembly Missions) out of the Kennedy Space Center:

March 16: Shuttle Atlantis - STS-117 (S3/S4 Solar Arrays and Truss)

June 28: Shuttle Endeavour - STS-118 (SPACEHAB/S5 Truss/ESP3)

September 17: Shuttle Atlantis - STS-120 (Node 2)

November 5: Shuttle Discovery - STS-122 (Columbus Module for European Space Agency)

December 8: Shuttle Endeavour - STS-123 (JEM ELM-P5 and SLP for JAXA (Japanese Space Agency) - will slip to Jan 2008.


Unmanned Missions out of Cape Canaveral (a few miles south of KSC):

Feb 15: United Launch Alliance/Boeing: Delta 2 - THEMIS (for NASA)

Feb 27: United Launch Alliance/Lockheed Martin - Atlas V - STP1 (for USAF)

April 1: United Launch Alliance/Boeing - Delta 4 - NRO L-28 (Black Project for DARPA/Pentagon)

April 20: United Launch Alliance/Lockheed Martin - Atlas V - NRO L-30 (Black Project for DARPA/Pentagon)

May 31: United Launch Alliance/Lockheed Martin - Atlas V - ICO (For commercial customer)

June 21: United Launch Alliance/Boeing - Delta 2 - DAWN (For NASA)

Aug 3: United Launch Alliance/Boeing - Delta 2 - PHOENIX to Mars (For NASA)

Sept 2: United Launch Alliance/Boeing - Delta 4L - NRO L-26 (Black Project for DARPA/Pentagon)

Sept 15: United Launch Alliance/Boeing - Delta 2 - GPS 2R-17 (M4) (For USAF)

Seven more by the end of the year - TBA
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do they burn up Chris?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tommi_J wrote:
Why do they burn up Chris?


It happens as the object drops out of the vacuum of space and hits the atmosphere of the planet, called entry interface. Travelling at thousands of miles per hour effortlessly in space changes into a conflict between the object and the air/gas of the atmosphere, which builds up pressure and friction, which heats up the object.

This quickly builds up to thousands of degrees, and at the same time the object is hitting more air, which is "aerobraking" the object, seen by super bright plamsa trail. So the object is burning up and being ripped apart by aerobraking as it re-enters, before everything burns up into nothing. Larger objects (like asteroids etc) are too big in mass to break-up and burn up enough before coming out of re-entry (not good).

The Shuttle's get around this by way of its TPS (Thermal Protection System - the black tiles on the vehicle) - which is her heatshield and the "angle of attack", nose up, wings down at 30 degrees, actually using the aerobraking on purpose to slow down from 17,500 mph to come into the runway at 200 mph and land.



Here's an onboard video from Atlantis' mission last year (STS-115) showing the plasma flashes and fire of re-entry. They are literally riding through a fireball, all automatically 'driven' by Atlantis herself, with the crew protected by the heatshield. They only hit 2G, which is comfortable.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/docs/Short115Reentry.wmv

Soyuz is a different kettle of fish, as the Russian vehicle literally drops down through entry, with the heatshield on the bottom of the vehicle. They hit a lot of Gs, before paracutes deploy and they drop down for landing.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPACESHIPS.....WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info...might get to see a launch. Spectacular BUT am not convinced it isnt all a waste of money !
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mick winn wrote:
Thanks for the info...might get to see a launch. Spectacular BUT am not convinced it isnt all a waste of money !


I'd be here all day explaining that one away Wink
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