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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:06 pm    Post subject: Intresting comments from Mike Newell! Reply with quote

Luton manager Mike Newell tonight launched an astonishing attack on assistant referee Amy Rayner and claimed female officials should be banned from professional football.

Speaking after his team's 3-2 home defeat by QPR, Newell claimed the presence of Rayner - in her second year as an official - amounted simply to tokenism and political correctness.

Newell said: "She should not be here. I know that sounds sexist, but I am sexist, so I am not going to be anything other than that.

"We have a problem in this country with political correctness, and bringing women into the game is not the way to improve refereeing and officialdom.

"It is absolutely beyond belief. When do we reach a stage when all officials are women, because then we are in trouble?

"It is bad enough with the incapable referees and linesmen we have, but if you start bringing in women, you have big problems.

"This is Championship football. This is not park football, so what are women doing here? It is tokenism, for the politically-correct idiots."


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Intresting comments from Mike Newell! Reply with quote

yorkcityrobdob wrote:
Luton manager Mike Newell tonight launched an astonishing attack on assistant referee Amy Rayner and claimed female officials should be banned from professional football.

Speaking after his team's 3-2 home defeat by QPR, Newell claimed the presence of Rayner - in her second year as an official - amounted simply to tokenism and political correctness.

Newell said: "She should not be here. I know that sounds sexist, but I am sexist, so I am not going to be anything other than that.

"We have a problem in this country with political correctness, and bringing women into the game is not the way to improve refereeing and officialdom.

"It is absolutely beyond belief. When do we reach a stage when all officials are women, because then we are in trouble?

"It is bad enough with the incapable referees and linesmen we have, but if you start bringing in women, you have big problems.

"This is Championship football. This is not park football, so what are women doing here? It is tokenism, for the politically-correct idiots."


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Sexist git, but he's right! The FA are determined to promote minorities in refereeing circles (race, creed or sex) as it seems 'the right thing to do!'
Certain individuals within the game have used this very much to their advantage.
One of the daftest things is that women officials can become 'FIFA' when they are only at Unibond line level, but men have to be FA Premier league line, where's the equality in that?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Intresting comments from Mike Newell! Reply with quote

Exactly. The only qualification should be wheather you are good enough or not. I can't stand all this so called positive discrimination.

Also all this money going into girls Football/Rugby beause it is PC yet noone cares about it. Sports like Hockey and Netball suffer.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree totally with Mike Newell's comments because Amy Rayner is a s***e ref and lineswomen and as a city fan i have seen some of her awful decisions and its not good for the game.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stiffy1 wrote:
I agree totally with Mike Newell's comments because Amy Rayner is a s***e ref and lineswomen and as a city fan i have seen some of her awful decisions and its not good for the game.


I agree she has been s***e 90% of the time we've had her as a ref, but when she was in charge away at cambridge last season, first half i thought she was excellent.

It was just in the second half when her performance deteriorated into a complete shambles!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As in any area, if they are good enough then no problem. Amy Rayner is so poor the people who qualified her need to be examined.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obviously no one has learned since "the Thatcher experiment" went so horribly wrong...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/luton_town/6140922.stm

Newell looks as if he could be in trouble.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with his comments too. I would say no harm women refereeing in womens matches but not in main stream professional football
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KEWELL10 wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/luton_town/6140922.stm

Newell looks as if he could be in trouble.


Looks like he needs to learn the laws of the game too...

Only the referee can award a penalty. He or she can be guided by an assistant, but the decision to award is purely down to the ref, in this case Andy D'urso...


I await Referee to now inform us of some hidden or unknown rule that shows me up... Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't say it's a case of positive discrimination. Is she really any worse than half the refs in this division?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomowen wrote:
I wouldn't say it's a case of positive discrimination. Is she really any worse than half the refs in this division?


Yes.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If she is sh*t, she is sh*t. It has nothing to do with her being a woman in football! There are loads of men refereeing in this game that are absolute bollocks. It should be about talent, not sex. I'm sure there are female refs out there that are as good as male refs. Did we not have a female linesman a couple of seasons back who was actually quite solid and kept up with the game rather well?

I like Newell though. Honest and fair. What we need more of in football.
Like the way he admits he is sexist too Laughing straight up.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Shaun Proctor-Green a woman? Big girl's blouse maybe.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

she is awful. last time i saw her was cambridge away, and she was the worst i've seen by a long long way. i personally have no problems with women referee's, i'd take a half decent one over some of the s***e we've been subjected to over the past few seasons, but she is there simply because she is a woman, which is sexist in itself!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yorklass74 wrote:
I agree with his comments too. I would say no harm women refereeing in womens matches but not in main stream professional football


I personally disagree. I think women have every right to be involved in officiating men's football.

But she is fuking shocking.

Screwed us twice by my count last campaign.







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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is sexism and racism judged as being completely different?

If Newell was to say the same, because a referee was black, he'd be suspended at the very least.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyone remember kidderminster away last season. there forward 1 on 1 with porter who then takes him out and she gives a goal kick. even porter was walking back to the dressing rooms.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but making a bad decision, doesn't make it a good one just because on that oxxasion it went in our favour does it?

A crap ref is a crap ref whether it's a totty or not.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

womens minds work duifferent to mesn they shouldnt be refreeing at a top level football match im waiting for a barrage of abuse !
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dicko.35 wrote:
womens minds work duifferent to mesn they shouldnt be refreeing at a top level football match im waiting for a barrage of abuse !


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dicko.35 wrote:
womens minds work duifferent to mesn they shouldnt be refreeing at a top level football match im waiting for a barrage of abuse !


Most women I know can spell ... Rolling Eyes

Not a huge fan of Women refs tbh, as any I've seen have been pretty hopeless, but given the current standard of their male counterparts I'm not sure we can single them out as being particularly poor.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tommi_J wrote:
Why is sexism and racism judged as being completely different?

If Newell was to say the same, because a referee was black, he'd be suspended at the very least.


You are very obsessed with racism are you not Tommi? If he had admitted he was a racist in the same way he admitted he was a sexist the FA would have investigated (in the same way they are now investigating!)

Would Newell have commented on Amy's performance (scuse the use of words) if his team had won?

Equally would the media have made such a thing of it if he had made a point of insulting a male lino if he had made mistakes?

We all know the answer to both is no.

Anyway she is s***e but unfortunately I have listened to much debate on various radio stations today from people who have never seen her officiate giving their qualified judgement - unfortunately these know it alls seem to all come out on the side of "poor little Amy" (mind you one guy on the phone in I was listening to did say that Newell was unfair to criticise Amy - she may have been having her period and that would undoubtebly affect her performance Very Happy - I nearly crashed the car laughing)
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dicko.35 wrote:
womens minds work duifferent to mesn they shouldnt be refreeing at a top level football match im waiting for a barrage of abuse !


I would usually ask how this makes them not able to referee football games, but I doubt I would understand even if it was explained to me! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newell is completely out of order - there is definitely a place for women officials and if they would just agree to do the job topless.................

Sorry - couldn't resist....(snigger).... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dicko.35 wrote:
womens minds work duifferent to mesn


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AcombDave wrote:
Tommi_J wrote:
Why is sexism and racism judged as being completely different?

If Newell was to say the same, because a referee was black, he'd be suspended at the very least.


You are very obsessed with racism are you not Tommi? If he had admitted he was a racist in the same way he admitted he was a sexist the FA would have investigated (in the same way they are now investigating!)


Sorry Dave, but I think we all know that is NOT the case. To even think that is laughable
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The idea that your dangly bits make any difference to your ability to referee a game of football is pure bollocks.

However, if you really think a penis is the only piece of equipment a referee needs, apply to be one (referee, not penis) yourself.

You can help drive out the female plague and restore refereeing standards to the total perfection of the golden age before women got the vote.

Unless and until more people come forward to give of their time and effort, the FA will have no choice but to rapidly promote officials who may have insufficient experience.

Shockingly, there are actually men Shocked who are being fast-tracked in this way, including some we’ve seen at Bootham Crescent over the last couple of seasons.

There is a shortage of good quality officials, but hurling Neanderthal sexist abuse at one particular official because you don’t like her decisions or her gender isn’t much of a recipe for improving things.
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