Ronaldo - the cheating one.

Angus · Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject: Ronaldo - the cheating one.

Was appalled by his 'gamesmanship.' Provoking players and goading them is tantamount to bullying and should be stamped out in the game. Final straw? Winking at his team-mates/manager as Rooney got dismissed.

noddyinnapa · Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:07 am Post subject:

I've said elsewhere he won't play again in England IMO

AllModCons · Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:55 am Post subject:

Real Madrid seem to be courting him.... maybe best he goes there. A good talent but his "gamesmanship" tonight was sad to see...
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Rafferz · Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject:

He should come for a game or two in the Conference - see how long he lasts then.

I'm happy to say that the cocky little trot, the sly little grin, and the "I'm better than you" look on his face would be a thing of the past within 15 minutes.
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yorkiethelion · Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject:

id love to nut him, see him cry, Tw@t, biggest to$$er in football i reckon
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Tonys Twostripes · Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:45 pm Post subject:

Aaah. Every time England f**k up at a tournment we find a scapegoat. That detracts from what a bunch of overpaid and overpampered footballers this nation has.

I would be more concearned with the fact that it is clear that Rooney is going to have to improve his temperment if he is to be effective at this level. He should have the sense to know that others are out there to wind him up. He is young and hopefully will learn but it is sad that a great talent like Ronaldo is driven out of English football by been made a scapegoat.

Besides most Man U fans are like oursleves club before country.
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Rafferz · Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:01 am Post subject:

I totally agree that we didn't play well. We didn't even deserve to get that far.

All that said, we were, in my opinion, the better team against Portugal. And we did deserve to beat them. If only for the fact that we were the only ones interested in playing football.

Ronaldo and the referee are not scapegoats for me. Sure, they are part of the reason we went out on Saturday. But if we'd have played anywhere near to our potential, then we'd have hammered Portugal. In fact, the only team we really would have had to fear was Argentina, and they went out against the Krauts.

They are not scapegoats for the idiotic selctions and formations made by the balding Swede, but they are certainly the reason that another mediocre(by our own high standards) wasn't enough against a Portuguese team who weren't interested in sticking to the rules.

And, remember France 98 against Argentina? No matter how well you play, you can't always beat a referee.
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I'm convinced Ronaldos transfer to wherever it is he's going was a done deal before this game. Neville and him were at each other long before the Rooney incident. Even if he wasn't going to leave United, he certainly will be now.
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Tommi_J · Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:21 am Post subject:

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deeuu · Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:40 pm Post subject:

I find it astonishing that otherwise intelligent people appear to lose all powers of logic and reasoning when it comes to England. I have seen much deeper and more insightful observations about City by many of you, so what is it about England that makes you behave like complete brainless morons?

England are and have been, for some time now, a very second rate football nation. France, Germany, Holland, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Argentina, Brazil, Ghana and Ivory Coast are all light years ahead.

Even this "Golden Crop" of England players are quite ordinary when compared with the French, Spanish or Argentine line ups. Where is the Zidane, the Riquelme or the Fabregas? Answer, the isn't one, England have lacked a real quality midfield general since Gascoigne and Hoddle.

They have failed to produce a world class goalkeeper since Banks (Shilton couldn't out jump Maradona!).

The defence is very solid and something to build on, but that is where it stops and explains the turgid dross England HAVE to play to grind out one nils against other second rate opposition.

Face facts, England had one of the easiest draws and still struggled. If they had been in the Argentina group they would have finished bottom. They got very, very lucky and still were not good enough.

Unfortunately, the longer that people keep falling for the Emperor's new clothes gag every couple of years you will keep supping from the bitter and embarrassing cup of public humiliation.

Time to be honest, England now deserve the status accorded by them to the likes of Belgium, Poland and Austria... Being Churchillian does make you appear right, it simply makes you look even more stupid actually.
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Tommi_J · Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:00 pm Post subject:

I disagree with you Deeuu about Ghana being light years ahead, I'm sure England could possibly scrape a 1-0 victory against them. However, the rest of what you have said is true.

The hype that surrounded the England team at this world Cup, was going to lead to the inevitable failure, and then a host of excuses by the fans, and players. I'm surprised that it is Eriksson that is the only one who hasn't made an excuse for the exit yet. What was the excuse for the first game against Paraguay? The weather, and the fact that the pitch had shadows on it. It's pathetic. There need not to be any excuses anyway, England weren't good enough to win it from the start.

Tonys Twostripes · Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject:

Italy, Spain, France, Germany, Holland, Portugal are all light years ahead of us in terms of developing youth and in coaching methods.

I don't quite agree with Dee but even Azerbaijan U21 had more flair and technical skills than England Under 21.

We should concentrate more on the technical side of the game and developing skills rather than getting the ball forward as quick as possible and giving it away too cheaply.

Sorry but the coaching standards in England are dreadful. Unfortunately we have too many clubs and winning is everything. Abroad lower league football often involves feeder clubs where talent can develop better.
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