Mick Mcarthy and other burning issues

lem

Deserve to be sacked?

Some of the players he has are awful. Kelvin Davies is the worst keeper ever, and Delap and Breen are just Premiership rejects. Surely all this can't be Murray's doing, he must have had resources to buy better players than that.

Maybe he'll get the England job? Confused

Can't believe no-one mentioned Pardew (for England). West Ham play some exciting football and have truly exceeded everyone's expectations aswell. The guy is also a nice bloke and never seems to go all out at the officials like most of the other Premiership tosspots.

While we're on about tosspots I hope Barca f***ing hammer Chelsea.
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Lardmonster · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:52 pm Post subject:

Shouldn't be too surprised. Sometimes managers deserve the sack, sometimes they don't. But that doesn't alter the reality: bad results lead to sackings of managers.

In this case, though, I wonder whether Bob Murray should be looking closer to home... Confused

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scarface · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:04 pm Post subject:

Feel very sorry for Mick McCarthy. Some of his buys werent up to standard (Stead for £1.8M, no goals Shocked

) but when you look at what he was given compared to the other promoted clubs it is little suprise they are where they are.

The statistics will not remember Mick kindly as a Premiership manager with Sunderland, but he was thouroughly refreshing in his post-match interviews with his honesty, unlike most managers these days, who simply blame everyone and everything.

Hope he gets another crack at the Premiership some day as id like to see him do well.

tomowen · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:01 pm Post subject:

Being half Mackem I think the sacking is a bad move. They were sh*t under him in the Premiership though he knew how to get them out of division one and with the team they have at the moment they won't have to sell anyone when they get relegated so should be in a good position to get promoted in 06/07 à la West Brom under Megson- then you could sack him saying the team needed someone with Premiership pedigree ONCE THEY WERE BACK IN THE PREMIERSHIP.
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lem · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject:

Sunderland won't get promoted next season. Too many 'golden oldies' and overhyped young players. Kyle and Stead wont score over a combined total of fifteen, and the Kelvinator will ship goals willy nilly. It's gonna be a tough old season for the Mackems next year.

Then again Graeme Souness is always available Very Happy

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Ivan Dobsky · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:28 pm Post subject:

McEwan to Sunderland? Wouldn't be beyond the bounds of possibility when they get relegated.
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LondonVillageRed · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject:

Richard · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject:

Mick McCarthy said on several occasions that he bought the players, he picked the players, he trains the players - he takes the responsibility.

The players he's bought have not been good enough. No-one can deny that. He's signed them, and while he might be a nice bloke, he has done very badly this season - so he gets sacked.

Whether he would have performed a miracle and kept them up or bought them straight back up next year is another question. A better question is why on earth anyone thought that Howard Wilkinson would be a good appointment as a manager of anything.

AllModCons · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:23 pm Post subject:

At least McCarthy has his side line as the news reporter on 'The Muppet Show' to fall back on! I agree with Lardmonster too! Murray and Fickling have a disasterous record, sacked Reid too late, appointed a manager whose best days were well behind him and then gave McCarthy little chance to keep them up. Finances were obviously tight but they were always playing with one hand behind their back. It seems they've angered the players with this too! If they wanted to make a change surely Xmas was the best time, not when their fate is pretty much sealed! They must be odds on to break their own record. If the Board aren't culpable for a series of disasterous decisions, who is? I'm surprised the fans have stayed so loyal, they were being forced to stay until half-time during their last spell in the Premier.
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Mr. Chips · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:47 pm Post subject:

McCarthy's done the job with one hand tied behind his back in terms of wages and money to spend. Realistically he took them up a season too soon with a team of youngsters (Lawrence, Whitehead, Steven Cauldwell, Elliott) and then didn't have the money to bring in experienced pros who would have enhanced the setup. If you look at everyone they've brought in they're youngsters or Championship standard.

I actually feel rather sorry for him, agree that if he was going to get sacked it should have been Xmas when the replacement could actually get time to get enough points to keep them up and think that Bob Murray (SAFC chairman) should take MAJOR responsibility for this.

He'll get another job in management, although the Sunderland fans texting into Teletext with 'Martin O'Neill for Sunderland' are clearly not on the same planet as the rest of us.......

deeuu · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:11 pm Post subject:

Richard · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:11 am Post subject:

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tomowen · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:48 am Post subject:

Read in today's guardian that McLeish could be a possible replacement. If he fancies the challenge could be a very good move: Massive English club who need a good manager to establish them in the Premiership. However I don't think a manager of his standing would fancy anything below the Premiership.
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lem · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:53 am Post subject:

Tom Owen wrote

tomowen · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:58 am Post subject:

lem · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:00 am Post subject:

Came down mate, I'm not even a toon fan!

Just thought i'd see if you took to the bait with you being half mackem.

And yes I agree, Sunderland fans are better than Newcastle fans.

However:
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four candles in the wind · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:28 am Post subject:

four candles in the wind · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:30 am Post subject:

[quote="lem"]

And yes I agree, Sunderland fans are better than Newcastle fans.

[quote]

But less numerous - see previous post.
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Yorkie · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:41 am Post subject:

Any way Kevin Ball in with a mop as the caretaker.

Stroke of genius by Murray and co.
Bring in a fans favourite from the club staff.Saves a fortune in wages and hard to see fans on his back.
Expect some full blooded challenges and a few bookings until the season ends.

SMP · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:09 pm Post subject:

[quote="four candles in the wind"][quote="lem"]

And yes I agree, Sunderland fans are better than Newcastle fans.

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keef · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject:

Few on here must have short memory's criticising Sunderland fans. Not so long back a good few Mackems came to City and happily mixed with City fans, spending a good few quid in the social club pre match and then a good part of the match wandering around the entire ground (away fans as well) with collection buckets and handed over the lot in another one of our times in need. At least they bothered to turn up unlike Newcastle!