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There is word out that they are in a position to buy Gigg Lane off Bury and lease it back to them.
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I hope not. I could understand maybe the Wimbledon fans desire to form their own club after moving 80 miles away but Kingstonian are victims of their insurgence.
If the p***ed UTD fans wanted real Football they would have been better served supporting some of the local Non League teams like Altrincham, Hyde and Droylsden. Instead of jumping on another Man U bandwagon. |
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Helen
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Oh dear oh dear.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I could understand maybe the Wimbledon fans desire to form their own club after moving 80 miles away but Kingstonian are victims of their insurgence. |
This statement is forbidden on this forum.
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tony canhan
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| UkrainianPhil wrote: |
| tony canhan wrote: |
| I could understand maybe the Wimbledon fans desire to form their own club after moving 80 miles away but Kingstonian are victims of their insurgence. |
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 Point taken. Sums up the intelligence of Man U fans that they are prepared to go and watch what amounts to Sunday League Football rather than supporting local Conference/Unibond sides instead.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Love it....
FCUM First Choice goalkeeper Barrie George "Plays in goal for England's partially-sighted football team" WTF  
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Love it....
FCUM First Choice goalkeeper Barrie George "Plays in goal for England's partially-sighted football team" WTF |
I may get the Red & Blue version of a whoosh here, but the partially sighted team is allowed to have one fully sighted player, that player is Barrie George.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| tony canhan wrote: |
| I hope not. I could understand maybe the Wimbledon fans desire to form their own club after moving 80 miles away but Kingstonian are victims of their insurgence. |
Nothwithstanding Phil's attempt at censorship ....
Kinstonian are not in my view "victims" of AFC Wimbledon at all - they would certainly have lost their ground to a Craig-like asset stripper without them, and arguably would have gone bust without their input.
Phil will not dispute this - he doesn't like getting involved in arguments that he knows he is unable to win.....
* puts on crash helmet *
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TCJYork
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| tony canhan wrote: |
| UkrainianPhil wrote: |
| tony canhan wrote: |
| I could understand maybe the Wimbledon fans desire to form their own club after moving 80 miles away but Kingstonian are victims of their insurgence. |
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Point taken. Sums up the intelligence of Man U fans that they are prepared to go and watch what amounts to Sunday League Football rather than supporting local Conference/Unibond sides instead.
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And if City were to go bust (or godforbid our shares be bought by a cash-rich outsider, like at Manchester United) would you rather watch an AFC York team or go and watch Harrogate or Scarborough?
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Helen
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:28 am Post subject: |
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The fact is that their team haven't gone bust, they were just a little bit disgruntled.
The reason why they get such big attendances at Gigg is probably because half of them are born and bred in Bury. Meanwhile, Bury FC is dying on its ar*e.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: |
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I find it very hard to take claims of loyalty from FC utd fans very seriously. If you talk to some of them (as I have) they claim that they are the loyal Man Utd fans who have made a stand. Well it strikes me as not being very loyal, if when your club do something you don't like, instead of trying to do something about it you go off and form another totally different club.
If York City went bust (heaven forbid) and reformed as York County FC or whatever then I would follow them as the team from York, but if because of the current off the field situation some of you decided to form a York County FC now, I would not go and follow them, as I support York City.
The fact that FCUM are treated as 'something special' by the media and in particular the rag that is 'The Non-League Paper' is a joke and fans of smaller clubs should be very wary of them. If their fans truly were Man Utd fans then they should have stayed Man Utd fans and not set up a different club, and if they are not Man Utd fans then they should have been supporting their local teams.
Ofcourse the above is just my opinion. |
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Woody Wilson
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| TCJYork wrote: |
| tony canhan wrote: |
| UkrainianPhil wrote: |
| tony canhan wrote: |
| I could understand maybe the Wimbledon fans desire to form their own club after moving 80 miles away but Kingstonian are victims of their insurgence. |
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Point taken. Sums up the intelligence of Man U fans that they are prepared to go and watch what amounts to Sunday League Football rather than supporting local Conference/Unibond sides instead.
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And if City were to go bust (or godforbid our shares be bought by a cash-rich outsider, like at Manchester United) would you rather watch an AFC York team or go and watch Harrogate or Scarborough?
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Context Thom. The smaller unibond/non league clubs the Man United fans should have backed, weren't once the rivals/unpopular neighbours of the former club.
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TCJYork
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Woody Wilson wrote: |
| TCJYork wrote: |
| And if City were to go bust (or godforbid our shares be bought by a cash-rich outsider, like at Manchester United) would you rather watch an AFC York team or go and watch Harrogate or Scarborough? |
Context Thom. The smaller unibond/non league clubs the Man United fans should have backed, weren't once the rivals/unpopular neighbours of the former club.
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Even better then, would you go and support Heworth or Dringhouses?
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Helen
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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| TCJYork wrote: |
| Woody Wilson wrote: |
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| And if City were to go bust (or godforbid our shares be bought by a cash-rich outsider, like at Manchester United) would you rather watch an AFC York team or go and watch Harrogate or Scarborough? |
Context Thom. The smaller unibond/non league clubs the Man United fans should have backed, weren't once the rivals/unpopular neighbours of the former club.
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Even better then, would you go and support Heworth or Dringhouses?
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If someone invested in York City? I bloody hope not.
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TCJYork
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Helen wrote: |
| TCJYork wrote: |
| Woody Wilson wrote: |
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| And if City were to go bust (or godforbid our shares be bought by a cash-rich outsider, like at Manchester United) would you rather watch an AFC York team or go and watch Harrogate or Scarborough? |
Context Thom. The smaller unibond/non league clubs the Man United fans should have backed, weren't once the rivals/unpopular neighbours of the former club.
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Even better then, would you go and support Heworth or Dringhouses?
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If someone invested in York City? I bloody hope not.
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But that's the thing, you see it as an investment. They see it as selling their soul to the devil, who is just going to use the club as a cash cow.
As City have no real profit through day to day running, the nearest analogy would be somebody buying York City to skim off the profit of inheriting the land we own. Now where have I heard that before, and how popular was/is he among City circles?
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Helen
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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And what did we do about it? Fight for our football club or give in and form our own to make a petty statement?
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TCJYork
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Helen wrote: |
| And what did we do about it? Fight for our football club or give in and form our own to make a petty statement? |
Touche. However we may have found it a little bit harder raising three-quarters of £1billion
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Helen
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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They don't have to. Their club's existence isn't threatened, they're just a bit insecure about outside interest.
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| Tony Canham's Shorts wrote: |
| I find it very hard to take claims of loyalty from FC utd fans very seriously. If you talk to some of them (as I have) they claim that they are the loyal Man Utd fans who have made a stand. Well it strikes me as not being very loyal, if when your club do something you don't like, instead of trying to do something about it you go off and form another totally different club.. |
Social Democrats anyone?
cue Greg with a decietful, sanitised, boring version of political history...
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| Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| But that's the thing, you see it as an investment. They see it as selling their soul to the devil, who is just going to use the club as a cash cow |
One person involved with the FC United actually used the fact that,since the Glazers took over, Man Utd could no longer afford to spend £25m on Wayne Rooney as one of the justifications for forming a "grassroots" club. Which seems flawed logic to me somehow. They sold their soul to the devil when they started hoovering up all the money in UK football to be able to buy the likes of Rooney for £25m. There was no move to set-up FC Utd when Veron arriving for an obsence £28m and departed for £14m less. If that isnt using the club as a cash cow I dunno what is.
If they wish to be taken seriously as a club for true fans of football, perhaps a grovelling apology for the way they were complicit in shafting so many lower league clubs in the first place would be a start.
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Reg Hedge
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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To be fair though "THEY" (ie the fans) weren't directly responsible for the whole Sky saga, Premier League, PLC culture were they?
Not saying that forming FCUM was the right thing to do necessarily.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Woody Wilson
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| TCJYork wrote: |
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| And if City were to go bust (or godforbid our shares be bought by a cash-rich outsider, like at Manchester United) would you rather watch an AFC York team or go and watch Harrogate or Scarborough? |
Context Thom. The smaller unibond/non league clubs the Man United fans should have backed, weren't once the rivals/unpopular neighbours of the former club.
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Even better then, would you go and support Heworth or Dringhouses?
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At the end of the day, these Manure 'fans' should have been supporting their local clubs to begin with, like we support York rather than Man United/Liverpool etc. I wouldn't have said I should be watching Fulford United everyweek rather than going to watch York on a Saturday afternoon.
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TCJYork
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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What makes you think that the fans that formed FCUoM are not supporting their local team?
Manchester United have consistently had more Manchester based season ticket holders than Manchester City.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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thats not what i heard i heard 80%of thier season tickets were outside of manchester
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TCJYork
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| thats not what i heard i heard 80%of thier season tickets were outside of manchester |
Who, what, where, when? If you mean 80% of Manchester United season ticket holders are from outside Manchester, that does not mean that Manchester City have more Manchester based ST holders.
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As a Mancunian based exile, I can confirm th
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Woody Wilson
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:01 am Post subject: |
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| What makes you think that the fans that formed FCUoM are not supporting their local team? |
The fact they chose Manchester United over Accrington Stanley/Bury et al in the first place. Forget Man City, we're not even talking about them.
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TCJYork
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| What makes you think that the fans that formed FCUoM are not supporting their local team? |
The fact they chose Manchester United over Accrington Stanley/Bury et al in the first place. Forget Man City, we're not even talking about them.
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Who's said that they all come from Accrington and Bury?! They come from Manchester, the only reason they're playing at Bury is it is the largest available ground to play at.
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