Islamic cartoon

[Duckworth Lewis]

I see a French newspaper has sacked its editor because they publiched this Danish cartoon thing.

There's protests, flag burning, trade boycotts etc.

Why can't these people get things into perspective, does it really matter? If Mohamed is so great I'm sure he can stand someone drawing a cartoon of him.

I seem to remember God appearing on The Simpsons. This didn't lead to wailing in the streets and threats against Homer.

If any Muslim extremists are reading this - douglas craig and john batchelor both think that Muslims smell of poo and that Mohamed is a bit silly - I'll happily provide contact details if they would like to discuss things.
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'Well bowled Harold'

[UkrainianPhil]

Is it really the majority of Muslims who are protesting and offended, or is it the white minority in the "right-on" media who are being offended on their behalf?

I suspect it is wallies like Peter Mandelson who are offended the most.

Depends what you find offensive. I don't find a cartoon depicting Mohammed particularly offensive. But I do find it offensive when the leader of one of the biggest Muslim states in the world thinks its ok to want to murder Israeli children with nuclear weapons.

And I don't even like the Israelis!
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[Duckworth Lewis]

I didn't say it was the majority of Muslims who find it offensive - I've no idea on the split of those who do and those who don't.

I don't think the 'right on' media are behind the flag burning and trade boycotts of Danish products that are happening in Pakistan.

Not sure where Peter Mendelson fits in either - in fact I rather not think about that.
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'Well bowled Harold'

[TooOldToPogo]

[Yabba]

No comment !
As those 'up in arms' will more than likely be getting a bag full of free tickets of the Aldershot game, from our board of directors. By way of an apology .

[Ivan Dobsky]

[deeuu]

[MacPhail]

[Ivan Dobsky]

To be honest I don't think Iraq invading Kuwait had anything to do with Muslim Fundamentalism. It was more to do with territorial claims that date back to 1899 when Kuwait split from the Ottoman Empire, getting protection from the British. Add to that the fact that Kuwait flooded the oil market by overproducing in the late 80's and driving down Iraq's main source of income needed to rebuild the country after the conflict with Iran. So old territorial claims and common capatilist concerns were the reasons. Saddam Hussein was/is a westernised dictator rather than a Taliban style despot.

On the cartoons, they were originally commisioned as an exercise to test freedom of speech and self censorship. I think we have seen that freedom of speech is under threat from, amongst others, Muslim extremists. These people don't make up the majority however.
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[UkrainianPhil]

[Ivan Dobsky]

Isn't that just what I said Phil.
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[UkrainianPhil]

[Ivan Dobsky]

[UkrainianPhil]

[Ivan Dobsky]

[Duckworth Lewis]

I hear there's a planned march through London to the Danish embassy planned for this afternoon - all about a fecking cartoon.

There's millions starving and suffering across the world, there's horrible natural disasters, disease etc and people get worked up about a drawing.

Quite unbelievable.
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'Well bowled Harold'

[AllModCons]

[UkrainianPhil]

Just seen the piece on the 6 o'clock news.

Absolutely shocking.

Gangs of idiots with banners saying things like "Europe is a cancer, Islam is the answer", "Behead those who insult Islam", "Kill those who are against the Koran", "No freedom of speech" etc

And stupidly we allow these people onto our streets while if they had their way nobody else would be allowed the same freedom of speech they themselves are enjoying!

Well, Muslims are always claiming "Nobody understands Muslims". Well watching that I think I now understand Muslims as much as I need to to know that these people displaying banners advocating the killing of Europeans should be kicked out of this country. Imagine if they a group of Anglicans with banners saying "Kill all Jews", "Islam is a cancer" etc, they would be thrown in prison or beaten up by counter-protestors.

Unbelievable.

Actually today I agree with them - freedom of speech is a mistake.
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www.york.tv

[CityTillIDie]

Muslims wanting censorship of anything they don't agree with, while hardly being quick to condemn members of their own community for wrong doings.

I doubt any of those calling for Jihad against Denmark will be facing trial, unlike members of a certain party who did for saying very little in comparison.

Wont be long before the Muslim community sets up an 'Islam first' party or something along those lines. Then the multi-cultural dream really will come alive.

At the end of the day the biggest problem in this country is white do-gooders apologising 'on behalf' of the Muslim community, often when said community isn't even offended by something.
There is something very wrong about a country where people are allowed to wave banners stating intent to kill non-muslims, but a flag at a football match saying 'Born in England, Live in England, Die in England' is ordered to be taken down by Police for fear of causing offence to the ethnic minority.
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[UkrainianPhil]

[Ivan Dobsky]

[Yabba]

[Ivan Dobsky]

[Yabba]

[UkrainianPhil]

[Yabba]

[Reg Hedge]

On the more general subject of religious extremism (not just Islamic, but Christian and Jewish too ) I dopn't know if anyone saw the recent 2-part programme called "The root of all evil?". It was presented by Richard Dawkins, who is a well-known atheist, and was basically an attack on all religion, and in particular the indoctination of children into certain faiths and beliefs. Some of the interviews were quite startling - particularly with one Muslim bloke who had a slightly unusual take on the concept of "tolerance".

Very, very interesting.
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[tony canhan]

The other side of the coin.

http://www.jubileeaction.co.uk/

I was quite shocked watching this on the news because the said country is one that is close to my heart and an ally of the USA. There will be the usual words from the corrupt politicians but no substance or will.

[Alan]

I haven't seen either the cartoons or the protests but if anyone has gone out to deliberately insult Muslims then that is wrong.

Having said that, I feel it's about time that these Islamist extremists realised that this is OUR country and whether they like it or not, it is predominantly a white Anglo Saxon, Protestant democracy.

If they want to express their views in a peaceful manner, fine. They should be accorded all the respect due to British citizens or to guests in our country. However, once they start telling us, ie the majority indigenous population, how to think, how to act and what we can and can't print IN OUR OWN COUNTRY, then maybe it's time for them to leave and head for a country they like better. The fact they may already be British citizens is irrelevant, they obviously don't like Western culture so let them go live in another one.

[CityTillIDie]