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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:07 pm    Post subject: Premiership 2005/2006 Reply with quote

Who will win the Premiership this year?


Personally, I think that it will be Chelsea's year again. They still have the strongest squad in the Premiership, and the best manager, who's already strated his mind games, to my delight.

I think Arsenal will struggle unless they find a replacement for Vieira, and they could be beaten to second place by Man.Utd, or even Liverpool, who I think will also have a good season now that Benitez has got it sorted.

Newcastle should finish around fifth or sixth, but with a manager like Souness, you never know what's going to kick off that could harm their season.

Everton will struggle to match last season's escapades, and will end up battling for a UEFA Cup spot with the usual regulars, Middlesbrough, Tottenham, Bolton and Aston Villa. Hopefully Middlesbrough can push on and fight for a CL place, so i cant watch some proper foorball in 2007.

For the drop, I think there are several teams that could be there or there abouts. Neither of the teams that have come up have strengthened sufficiently so far IMO, and WBA could be involved along with those 3.

For my surprise team of the season, I think Portsmouth may cause a few upsets, and gain a respectable top-half finish.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

leeds will do well this season and challange..


opps forgot there not in the premiership any more.Just another league club. Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Premiershit - Couldn't care less, although will probably watch MotD every week!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Premiershit - Couldn't care less, although will probably watch MotD every week!


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How is it the premierpoo? it's the best league in the world For ducks' sake.. Oh wait,sorry, the Conference is much better.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LA Metros Hockey Player wrote:
Premiershit - Couldn't care less, although will probably watch MotD every week!


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How is it the premierpoo? it's the best league in the world For ducks' sake.. Oh wait,sorry, the Conference is much better.


Overpaid, over hyped, £100,000 a week duck off not ducking proper football!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LA Metros Hockey Player wrote:
tommihird wrote:
LA Metros Hockey Player wrote:
Premierpoo - Couldn't care less, although will probably watch MotD every week!


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How is it the premierpoo? it's the best league in the world For ducks' sake.. Oh wait,sorry, the Conference is much better.


Overpaid, over hyped, £100,000 a week duck off not ducking proper football!


Not proper football, you're having a laugh. So you mean that if york ever got into the Premiership, and the players were paid ridculous money, you'd say the league was sh*t.

The Conference satndard of football is almost intolerable. People like you ruin this country Rob.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tommihird wrote:
LA Metros Hockey Player wrote:
tommihird wrote:
LA Metros Hockey Player wrote:
Premiership - Couldn't care less, although will probably watch MotD every week!


[removed]

How is it the premiership? it's the best league in the world For ducks' sake.. Oh wait,sorry, the Conference is much better.


Overpaid, over hyped, £100,000 a week duck off not ducking proper football!


Not proper football, you're having a laugh. So you mean that if york ever got into the Premiership, and the players were paid ridculous money, you'd say the league was poor.

The Conference satndard of football is almost intolerable. People like you ruin this country Rob.

I'm leaving. [removed]. All Of You.


No, as the coke advert suggests, it is the FOOTBALL LEAGUE and the sooner we are back there the better. But I ahte the glory seeking nature of the premiershit.

Anyway, enjoy reading your posts next week.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LA Metros Hockey Player wrote:
tommihird wrote:
LA Metros Hockey Player wrote:
tommihird wrote:
LA Metros Hockey Player wrote:
Premiership - Couldn't care less, although will probably watch MotD every week!


[removed]

How is it the premiership? it's the best league in the world For ducks' sake.. Oh wait,sorry, the Conference is much better.


Overpaid, over hyped, £100,000 a week duck off not ducking proper football!


Not proper football, you're having a laugh. So you mean that if york ever got into the Premiership, and the players were paid ridculous money, you'd say the league was poor.

The Conference satndard of football is almost intolerable. People like you ruin this country Rob.

I'm leaving. [removed]. All Of You.


No, as the coke advert suggests, it is the FOOTBALL LEAGUE and the sooner we are back there the better. But I ahte the glory seeking nature of the premiershit.

Anyway, enjoy reading your posts next week.


You won't be reading any of my ducking posts, because I won't be posting any. YY's is a [removed] shambles, I try to post a decent topic, and then you ruin in it. This is the final straw.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tommihird wrote:
LA Metros Hockey Player wrote:
tommihird wrote:
LA Metros Hockey Player wrote:
tommihird wrote:
LA Metros Hockey Player wrote:
Premiership - Couldn't care less, although will probably watch MotD every week!


[removed].

How is it the premiership? it's the best league in the world For ducks' sake.. Oh wait,sorry, the Conference is much better.


Overpaid, over hyped, £100,000 a week duck off not ducking proper football!


Not proper football, you're having a laugh. So you mean that if york ever got into the Premiership, and the players were paid ridculous money, you'd say the league was poor.

The Conference satndard of football is almost intolerable. People like you ruin this country Rob.

I'm leaving. [removed]. All Of You.


No, as the coke advert suggests, it is the FOOTBALL LEAGUE and the sooner we are back there the better. But I ahte the glory seeking nature of the premiership.

Anyway, enjoy reading your posts next week.


You won't be reading any of my posts, because I won't be posting any. YY's is a shambles, I try to post a decent topic, and then you ruin in it. This is the final straw.

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It was hardly spoilt really, just a difference of opinions wich you took exception to.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fellas,

I come on specially to check on YY, I find 1 (rightly) locked thread and another full of over the top stupid arguing. When I saw this thread I figured it might be some good, and I think it still will be, if you overlook the arguing.

Now then lads, what is the point eh?. Drop it.

This thread IS now back on track and any discussion will be related to the thread title. Thanks.

Personally I like to watch Premiership football, I am sure a lot of people do, it is something that you must watch on a Saturday night. I also watch Conference football because that is unfortunately the league we are in.

As for the Prem title next year, money has to be on Chelsea I reckon. Arsenal are selling Vieria to Juventus which I don't think is a great idea but they have some other fella lined up to replace him.

For the drop I think Wigan will probably go back down, but having got Ellington to sign a contract they have retained some firepower. WBA I think will stay up convincingly this time.

Now, no more arguing, and no more stupid threads. Easy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

footyfan wrote:
Fellas,

I come on specially to check on YY, I find 1 (rightly) locked thread and another full of over the top stupid arguing. When I saw this thread I figured it might be some good, and I think it still will be, if you overlook the arguing.

Now then lads, what is the point eh?. Drop it.

This thread IS now back on track and any discussion will be related to the thread title. Thanks.

Personally I like to watch Premiership football, I am sure a lot of people do, it is something that you must watch on a Saturday night. I also watch Conference football because that is unfortunately the league we are in.

As for the Prem title next year, money has to be on Chelsea I reckon. Arsenal are selling Vieria to Juventus which I don't think is a great idea but they have some other fella lined up to replace him.

For the drop I think Wigan will probably go back down, but having got Ellington to sign a contract they have retained some firepower. WBA I think will stay up convincingly this time.

Now, no more arguing, and no more stupid threads. Easy.


Maybe I did over react at the start, I do like to see the smaller clubs in the top flight do well but never support the 3 BIG fish or Liverpool or Newcastle if the play the lower teams.

It was a brilliant end to last season, best relegation battle I have ever seen I think.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

West ham to challenge for a european place. Liverpool to win it, Chelsea second, Man.u third and Aresenal fourth.

For the drop i reckon wigan, sunderland and Charlton or Fulham.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charlton have signed Sorondo, who played for Palace last year. Fulham have lost Van der Sar, and I reckon they might struggle a bit next year. Man City and Pompey to do well though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yorkcityrobdob wrote:
West ham to challenge for a european place. Liverpool to win it, Chelsea second, Man.u third and Aresenal fourth.

For the drop i reckon wigan, sunderland and Charlton or Fulham.


Charton appear to have a decent squad this year and I feel they will easily make a top 10 place.

Portsmouth, Wigan and West Brom to go down.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yorkcityrobdob wrote:
West ham to challenge for a european place. Liverpool to win it, Chelsea second, Man.u third and Aresenal fourth.

For the drop i reckon wigan, sunderland and Charlton or Fulham.


Charton appear to have a decent squad this year and I feel they will easily make a top 10 place.

Portsmouth, Wigan and West Brom to go down.


Charlton have, IMO, sold their best player to West-ham in Paul Konchesky! He was a playmaker and allthough he wasn't in the first team too much, allways played really well when he had the chance. Yeah they've got one or two decent players, but not enough to put together a decent run of results to keep them in the premiership.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the subject of Charlton I am more inclined to agree with Dobbo. They can't maintain good results consistently to keep in the top half, last season they tailed off towards the end. However I don't think they will go down. mid table.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Premiership

Champions:Chelsea
Runners-Up:Liverpool
Champions League:Manchester United & Arsenal
Relegated:Fulham, Wigan & West Ham
Surprise Team:Portsmouth

Europe:

Italy:AC Milan
Spain:Real Madrid
Germany:Bayern Munich
France:AS Monaco

Maybe you should have had that bet Rob........ Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firstly I’d like to start by saying what a great league the Premiership is at the moment. For excitement it is miles better than La Liga or Seria A. I mean last season we had the chase for 4th spot, 7th spot and of course the relegation battle. Usually the mentality of Premiership teams is to attack and win the game at a high tempo which adds to the excitement.

Sadly I think 3 things could ruin the premiership:
1. Diving. You see it all the time in Spain and Brazil and it looks like it’s coming over here too now. And after all it’s cheating, so why should they not receive a severe punishment after the game if the referee doesn’t catch it? Get cheats like Vieria and Pires out the premiership, they aren’t wanted. I know an Arsenal season ticket holder who says the whole of her section can’t stand it when Pires or anyone dives and they all want them out the club.
2. Wages. Bloody hell it’s getting a joke now, apparently Rio is turning down a £85, 000 a week contract because he says he could get more at Chelsea or Real Madrid. What a joke! Especially since he will probably get injured and not end up playing for half a season.
3. Chelsea. Look what they have done to Ashley Cole and Frank Arnesen, they will probably do it again and of course they will just receive a fine. What good does that do when they can afford anything in the world. I think the amount of money they throw about will always win them the Premiership at least once every 3 years. But I believe you don’t need money to win the Premiership, look at Arsenal. They didn’t spend huge money but they went a season un beaten!

So anyway the Premiership…

• Arsenal – Although I agree with selling Vieria I don’t think it will work out for them in their last season at Highbury. On Vieria, I feel he is a class player on form but he hasn’t been on form last year and it was clear he didn’t want to play for the club so I think Wenger has done a decent deal to at least get some money for him which no doubt he will probably spend a small amount on the Academy or bringing in the next Henry for a few million. I think this season will be a lot of players last, Ljunberg, Pires, Bergkamp, Reyes etc. But I think the year after in their first season at Ashburton Grove could be a successful one with players like Fabregas and Senderos coming through.
My Prediction – 4th
Best Player – Thierry Henry
Top Goal Scorer – Thierry Henry

• Aston Villa – I feel the Villains season depends on how the front two perform. If whoever the strikers are score lots of goals I think a European place is on the cards, if not however I can see another mid table disappointment. On paper the team is very good and on form it is probably one of the strongest in the League.

My Prediction – 9th
Best Player – Gareth Barry
Top Goal Scorer – Kevin Phillips

• Birmingham – I tip the Blues for a good season this year. Steve Bruce has got a good balance in the squad and with Pennant, Julian Gray, Heskey and Forsell I feel they have good attacking options and if they get big Emile fired up there is no knowing where they could go. They look solid at the back with Upson and Cunningham and if Dunn is fit they have goals all around the team. Perhaps another midfielder to just give another option and they have a complete squad.

My Prediction – 8th
Best Player – Jermaine Pennant
Top Goal Scorer – Mikeal Forsell

• Blackburn Rovers – Now Mark Hughes is used to Premiership football and has brought in a few of his players Blackburn could be a force in the Premiership this year if their key players stay injury free. I think they will play a bit more attractively this year but will grind out results when they have too.

My Prediction – 13th
Best Player – Morten Gamst Pedersen
Top Goal Scorer – Craig Bellamy

• Bolton – A lack of transfer activity this summer from Big Sam apart from Diouf makes me think Bolton will struggle this season. Also they are now in Europe so I feel this could interrupt their Premiership plans and stretch their squad to the limits.


My Prediction – 15th
Best Player – Kevin Nolan
Top Goal Scorer – Kevin Davies

• Charlton – They don’t look a team to me and I think this could be Curbishley’s last year at the Valley. Ambrose and Bent look good signings to me but with the rest of the team I don’t think it will happen. I predict a season with few goals scored and lots of goals against. With regards to Paul Konchesky, I don’t think it was a bad move selling him as he was always causing trouble in the Addicks camp and although he looks a good player I doubt it would have been a good year for him.

My Prediction – 17th
Best Player – Darren Ambrose
Top Goal Scorer – Darren Bent


• Chelsea – I have a feeling Mourinho may finally crack at the final hurdle this year. New signing Del Horno looks good and if they get Essien and SWP they may win a Cup, perhaps the Champions League. I just feel though that this is Man United’s year and Chelsea will have to settle for 2nd.

My Prediction – 2nd
Best Player – Frank Lampard
Top Goal Scorer – Frank Lampard


• Everton – An incredible season last year will in my view be followed up by a good one this year. Moyes has strengthened his squad and if they get Beattie going they will challenge for Europe again. A couple more signings should do it and I expect some deals in January as well.


My Prediction – 6th
Best Player – Tim Cahill
Top Goal Scorer – James Beattie

• Fulham – A poor season for Fulham is coming up I feel. I don’t think the loss of Edwin Van der Sar will matter that much but in out field positions they just aren’t strong enough, Heidar Helguson looks a decent signing but they could do with another few decent players. However if the likes of Malbranque and Boa Morte shape themselves a mid table position is possible but I just can’t see it happening I’m afraid. Coleman needs to get out the cheque book and fast.


My Prediction – 16th
Best Player – Papa Boupa Dioup
Top Goal Scorer – Heidar Helguson

• Liverpool – The reds have gone from strength to strength over the Summer and if they get Crouch it will be a premiership challenging season. I just hope they don’t over do it with the forighn signings and have a squad that can’t socalize with one another. Last season Rafa Benitez had all the luck in the world against him in terms of injury. This season they should be able to cope with a few injury’s as in mp opinion they have one of the strongest squads in the premiership. If the Cisse and Morientes partnership comes off and Zenden and Garcia are on top form there could be goals coming from everywhere as Gerrard and Alonso can smash ‘em in too. So they have goals but what about the back? Well I think this season they will be much more solid and work as a unit and they will probably have Risse at left back instead of that donkey Traore. Carragher could be the difference between a goal and a clean sheet this season as he is the defencive leader and inspires the team. It must be good to have people like Hyppia, Gerrard and Carragher on the same pitch!

My Prediction – 3rd
Best Player – Xabi Alonso
Top Goal Scorer – Djbril Cisse

• Man City – Possibly, possibly…the next Everton! Looks like SWP will leave for big money near the end of the transfer window like Rooney did and they have a young determined (understatement) manager just like Moyes. They have a very solid defence in Distin and Dunne and if they could master the 1-0 maybe a European place? Whatever happens this season even if they face the drop I feel Pearce will be a great manager for them in the long run.

My Prediction – 12th
Best Player – Richard Dunne
Top Goal Scorer – Robbie Fowler

• Manchester United – Well I have tipped for Mancs for success for the past couple of years and yet again I think they will win the Premiership. They have a good solid keeper. The back 4, well, Neville-Rio-Silvestre-Heinze isn’t exactly a shaky defence. The midfield is where I think they will win the league though, Keane and Schole in the centre and have Rooney and Ronaldo doing what they do wandering around the pitch alternating wings and with big Ruud up front they have goals in them. A lot of the 2005/2006 season for Man United could depend on injuries, Van Nistelrooy was out for most of last year and players like Keane and Rio were not always there.

My Prediction – 1st
Best Player – Wayne Rooney
Top Goal Scorer – Ruud Van Nistelrooy

• Middlesborough – A European place again I think and with Yakubu up front they have a bit of pace and hopefully Downing can get some good balls in for the font men. They look solid enough in midfield and at the back but nothing too special. Perhaps next year for the Champions League.

My Prediction – 7th
Best Player – Stewart Downing
Top Goal Scorer – Yakubu

• Newcastle – A more consistent season I feel this year and although no European place, a position to build on for next season. I think Souness has received a lot of unfair criticism as he was right to get rid of prats like Bellamy and Robert and needs to get players like Dyer and Bowyer out the club. Scott Parker is a signing that excites me and Emre looks a decent buy too. Another striker and a centre half and they will challenge for Europe, if not another mediocre season for the Toon Army….but maybe at last it’s their year for the F.A cup!

My Prediction – 10th
Best Player – Scott Parker
Top Goal Scorer – Alan Shearer

• Portsmouth – I feel Pompey could finishe anywhere from 20th to 5th this season. Bit of luck and they could go on a run, if not a relagation battle. Perrin looks a good enough manager but I don’t know enough about him to comment. They need a replacement for Yakubu and perhaps a few midfielders and defenders but apart from that their squad has potential. If Perrin can get Robert happy he will be a good aquesition for the club.

My Prediction – 14th
Best Player – Laurent Robert
Top Goal Scorer – Lua-Lua

Sunderland – Now I have been very impressed with Mick Mcarthy’s summer signings. A lot of British players who are hungry for premiership football, Nyron Nosworthy from Gillingham looks a good player, a strong body and mind who is a good defender. We should be able to quickly see if he can make the step up from Championship level. Tommy Miller and Kelvin Davis are just great signings from Ipswich. Davis was one of the best keepers last season in England let alone the Championship and Miller banged loads of goals in and created many assists. But what I think will be their best Signing is Jon Stead. He definitely has talent as we all saw when he origanly moved to Blackburn but now he has a point to prove after a baron season in front of goal. If he doesn’t make it this season he will soon be on his way back down the Leagues.

My Prediction – 11th
Best Player – Tommy Miller
Top Goal Scorer – Jon Stead

• Tottenham – Now Martin Jol has a full season incharge of Spurs I think he will do great. He has a young squad full of potential and ambition but has some old heads in the squad like Naybet. On paper it’s perhaps a better side than the Gunners but we all know football isn’t played on paper. The spine of the side is just incredible, Robinson, King, Carrick and Defoe with players like Lennon, Routledge and Reid on the wings. I think its time to ship Keane out too now and I think Mido is in for a great season.

My Prediction – 5th
Best Player – Micheal Carrick
Top Goal Scorer – Jermaine Defoe

• West Brom – One season too many for the Baggies me thinks, not enough goals going to be scored and too many going in at the other end. Simple as that really. If they get Keiran Richardson on loan again though I would say that could make a big difference in their current campaign.

My Prediction – 18th
Best Player – Zolten Gera
Top Goal Scorer – Robert Earnshaw


• West Ham – Again like West Brom just not going to be enough goals scored or a good enough defence however I do feel if they go back down they will bounce back even stronger and be able to stay in the Premiership then.

My Prediction – 19th
Best Player – Anton Ferdinand
Top Goal Scorer – Marlon Harewood

• Wigan – I think they will put up a fight but in the end not have enough experience or talent. They could however bounce straight back up if they spend wisely. Paul Jewell is a great manager who has something to prove in the Premiership and will do all he can to keep Wigan up. Perhaps if they score enough goals from day 1 and get an early win they may have a chance of survival.

My Prediction – 20th
Best Player – Nathan Ellington
Top Goal Scorer – Nathan Ellington

1. Manchester United
2. Chelsea
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Tottenham
6. Everton
7. Middlesbrough
8. Birmingham
9. Aston Villa
10. Newcastle
11. Sunderland
12. Man City
13. Blackburn
14. Portsmouth
15. Bolton
16. Fulham
17. Charlton
18. West Brom
19. West Ham
20. Wigan

So, that’s what I think will happen so it is bound to not happen! Whatever happens though it’s going to be a great season. My team to watch is Birmingham and I think the best battle will be for that European spot as it between so many teams. I just hope Chelsea don’t win it again and it will be nice if at least one of the promoted teams stays up.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

16ycfcjosh wrote:
Firstly I’d like to start by saying what a great league the Premiership is at the moment. For excitement it is miles better than La Liga or Seria A. I mean last season we had the chase for 4th spot, 7th spot and of course the relegation battle. Usually the mentality of Premiership teams is to attack and win the game at a high tempo which adds to the excitement.


I agree, The Premiership is definitely the best league in the world in terms of excitement, but I would like to see the relegation play-off like in Serie A incorporated into the Premiership. This would become another intense moment at the end of the season and would greatly add to the excitement.



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• Middlesborough – A European place again I think and with Yakubu up front they have a bit of pace and hopefully Downing can get some good balls in for the font men. They look solid enough in midfield and at the back but nothing too special. Perhaps next year for the Champions League.

My Prediction – 7th
Best Player – Stewart Downing
Top Goal Scorer – Yakubu


Having watched Super Boro on regular occasions last season, their defence was nothing short of poor, not so much in Europe, but in the Premiership. They have signed Yakubu, so their attacking options are increased, however, they need to defend solidly in order to progress to the next level. Signing Austrians is the right way to go about it.


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1. Manchester United
2. Chelsea
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Tottenham
6. Everton
7. Middlesbrough
8. Birmingham
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10. Newcastle
11. Sunderland
12. Man City
13. Blackburn
14. Portsmouth
15. Bolton
16. Fulham
17. Charlton
18. West Brom
19. West Ham
20. Wigan


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2.Liverpool
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5.Middlesbrough
6.Tottenham
7.Everton
8.Portsmouth
9.Birmingham
10.Newcastle
11.Man City
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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• West Ham – Again like West Brom just not going to be enough goals scored or a good enough defence however I do feel if they go back down they will bounce back even stronger and be able to stay in the Premiership then.

My Prediction – 19th
Best Player – Anton Ferdinand
Top Goal Scorer – Marlon Harewood


1. Manchester United
2. Chelsea
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Tottenham
6. Everton
7. Middlesbrough
8. Birmingham
9. Aston Villa
10. Newcastle
11. Sunderland
12. Man City
13. Blackburn
14. Portsmouth
15. Bolton
16. Fulham
17. Charlton
18. West Brom
19. West Ham
20. Wigan

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f**k about! How can you say west ham will not score enough goals, with strikers such as Bobby zamora, marlon harewood and teddy sheringham. Add to that wingers such as Matty etherington and luke chadwick and any team is more or less guaranteed goals!

I doubt west-ham will leak many goals this season when they have defensive midfielders such as Nigel reo-coaker, Gavin williams and Carol fletcher. With all these key areas of west-ham's team filled with solid, reliable players, they are certain to avoid the drop again IMO.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I saw West Ham last season live and a few matches. When they played Burnley they won 1-0 due to a goal which came from a Burnley error. Harewood has lots of pace and can cause havoc in the Championship but his finishing is pretty poor really and he won't get away with it in the Premiership. Sherringham on the other hand is still one of the best players around but he will lack pace and won't be able to play or finish every match and will not be a 20 goal a season man. Zamora has just come good for West Ham but when he was at Spurs he couldn't cut it! And when Chadwick was on loan at Burnley for a year on loan he was s***e, he didn't even get into their team half the time last year either!
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As for Etherington, he is a decent player but without the strikers up front so what. We will see how well they do then but I very much doubt West Ham will score many goals next year.

And defensive midfielders? Norwich and Crystal Palace tried that one last year and what happened to them? The two centre halves (Ferdinand and Elliot) look pretty good but they are both very young and are bound to make mistakes.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well I saw West Ham last season live and a few matches. When they played Burnley they won 1-0 due to a goal which came from a Burnley error. Harewood has lots of pace and can cause havoc in the Championship but his finishing is pretty poor really and he won't get away with it in the Premiership. Sherringham on the other hand is still one of the best players around but he will lack pace and won't be able to play or finish every match and will not be a 20 goal a season man. Zamora has just come good for West Ham but when he was at Spurs he couldn't cut it! And when Chadwick was on loan at Burnley for a year on loan he was s***e, he didn't even get into their team half the time last year either!
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West Ham 02-08-2004 Free 22 (10) 1 3 (0) 0 1 (0) 0 0 (0) 0


As for Etherington, he is a decent player but without the strikers up front so what. We will see how well they do then but I very much doubt West Ham will score many goals next year.

And defensive midfielders? Norwich and Crystal Palace tried that one last year and what happened to them? The two centre halves (Ferdinand and Elliot) look pretty good but they are both very young and are bound to make mistakes.


Harewood's finishing is sh*t-hot. He will get 15 goals at least next season.

Bobby zamora, you're right, couldn't cut it for Tottenham. But he is a different player now, he has a couple of years more experience and he is faster and stronger than ever, he too will gewt around 15 goals next season.

The defensive midfielders will work well for west-ham next year, they tried it in all the games i went to last season and it worked really well for them. The only reason it didn't work for Norwich and Crystal palace was because they only had 1 or 2 good players, e.g. Darren huckerby and Rob green for Norwich and Andy johnson for palace. You have to have good players around you to create something AFTER the defence has cleared the danger, that is the difference between West-ham and Norwich or Crystal palace, West-ham DO have the good players in front of the defence, to be able to create oippertunities and lift the pressure off the defenders for a while.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yorkcityrobdob wrote:
16ycfcjosh wrote:
Well I saw West Ham last season live and a few matches. When they played Burnley they won 1-0 due to a goal which came from a Burnley error. Harewood has lots of pace and can cause havoc in the Championship but his finishing is pretty poor really and he won't get away with it in the Premiership. Sherringham on the other hand is still one of the best players around but he will lack pace and won't be able to play or finish every match and will not be a 20 goal a season man. Zamora has just come good for West Ham but when he was at Spurs he couldn't cut it! And when Chadwick was on loan at Burnley for a year on loan he was s***e, he didn't even get into their team half the time last year either!
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West Ham 02-08-2004 Free 22 (10) 1 3 (0) 0 1 (0) 0 0 (0) 0


As for Etherington, he is a decent player but without the strikers up front so what. We will see how well they do then but I very much doubt West Ham will score many goals next year.

And defensive midfielders? Norwich and Crystal Palace tried that one last year and what happened to them? The two centre halves (Ferdinand and Elliot) look pretty good but they are both very young and are bound to make mistakes.


Harewood's finishing is sh*t-hot. He will get 15 goals at least next season.



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think West Ham will easily stay up next season with the squad of players they have. Good strikers to get goals and have signed Carroll from Man Utd plus they already have Walker and Bywater. All 3 are good, even if Carroll makes an error every now and again. A good midfield, and a good defence as well. I hope they stay up.
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1. Chelsea
2. Man United
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. Everton
6. Newcastle
7. Tottenham
8. Middlesbrough
9. Man City
10. Birmingham
11. Portsmouth
12. Bolton
13. Charlton
14. Aston Villa
15. West Ham
16. West Brom
17. Blackburn
18. Sunderland
19. Fulham
20. Wigan

Well I reckon Chelsea have got this title again, easily strongest squad in Premiership, I think Arsenal could struggle without Viera and come 4th.
I think Bolton will struggle this season as if they do well in the UEFA Cup then possibly fatigue will come into play. Everton will have a similar season to last.



Relegation

I think West Ham have the best chance of staying up due to their strikers eg: Bobby Zamora. Wigan have invested little of no money into their squad. Fulham will slump this season as I have always thought they would. And this season IMO is not gonna be their season.
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I think Liverpool will do quite well in the Premiership this season, they have made several good signings and have managed to keep hold of Gerrard. They should finish higher than they did last season.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zamora is the football league goal machine but I don't think he quite has what it takes to be a top player at this level, Dobbo is biased but I think Hammers will struggle this season.
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Being born in east london (house there was closer to upton park as my current one is to KKC) I want to see west ham do well and with my mum being a mackem I wouldn't mind a double over newcastle and seeing them staying up too. However, I feel they will both struggle unless MM gets the mackems playing premiership standard football (getting rid of two football league workhorses to make way for premiership class shows he is serious about doing more than long balls to kevin kyle and pacy runs à la Michael Reddy from elliot to stay in the top flight) West ham will struggle for quality though the way they got through the playoffs after finishing 6th in a mediocre division suggests they may be a big game team who will turn it on when it matters.

I think Man Yoo will win the title as they are a mean machine with the healthiest finances of any club in the world (even with glazier) and I feel fletcher/park ji sung/liam miller will come good and act as the team's roy keane (when the captain isn't up for it) and scholes will chip in his usual number of goals whilst van nistelrooy will discover the ole gunnar trick of scoring when it really matters. Arsenal have the flair to tear weak teams apart though not the hard graft to win the title whilst for chelsea cech will have a bout of second season syndrome, claude will turn old and doddery and frank cannot possibly keep up his current levels of form can he?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tomowen wrote:
Being born in east london (house there was closer to upton park as my current one is to KKC) I want to see west ham do well and with my mum being a mackem I wouldn't mind a double over newcastle and seeing them staying up too. However, I feel they will both struggle unless MM gets the mackems playing premiership standard football (getting rid of two football league workhorses to make way for premiership class shows he is serious about doing more than long balls to kevin kyle and pacy runs à la Michael Reddy from elliot to stay in the top flight) West ham will struggle for quality though the way they got through the playoffs after finishing 6th in a mediocre division suggests they may be a big game team who will turn it on when it matters.

I think Man Yoo will win the title as they are a mean machine with the healthiest finances of any club in the world (even with glazier) and I feel fletcher/park ji sung/liam miller will come good and act as the team's roy keane (when the captain isn't up for it) and scholes will chip in his usual number of goals whilst van nistelrooy will discover the ole gunnar trick of scoring when it really matters. Arsenal have the flair to tear weak teams apart though not the hard graft to win the title whilst for chelsea cech will have a bout of second season syndrome, claude will turn old and doddery and frank cannot possibly keep up his current levels of form can he?


I think this is the first time i've ever said this to you tomowen, but here goes;

I agree!!!
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Champions;Chelsea
Runners up; Man Utd
third place; Arsenal
fourth place;Liverpool

18th;Sunderland
19th;Fulham
20th;Wigan

FA Cup;Man Utd

Carling Cup;Liverpool

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