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dicko.35 · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:31 am Post subject:

ban old men like u from young yorkies
wots the point just keep the faith and stop moaning
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Jack McCoy · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:32 am Post subject:

AcombDave · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:33 am Post subject:

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Jack McCoy · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:37 am Post subject:

Thing is AD, kingmouse has done particularly nothing wrong. He may be re-iterating the same point, indeed, but so is Phil. Phil's accusing him of degrading the discussion but....get this...he isn't. Phil, with his close minded view of all those who may differ in their opinions on this board, causes the friction and then shifts the burden.
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UkrainianPhil · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:39 am Post subject:

Kingmouse · The Psycho Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 1878 Location: York

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Jack McCoy · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:45 am Post subject:

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UkrainianPhil · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:49 am Post subject:

Jack McCoy · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:54 am Post subject:

Sorry Phil, you're going to have to patronise me just one more time. For the last good while most YYs who most would agree aren't suitable to post in CC (text speakers, one sentence continual wonders etc) have restricted themselves to the most part to YY. That's what it's there for. The ones, like me, El Nombre, Woody, Helen, etc, who do post occasionally in CC are somewhat bright and do have something to say. So why have the old guard's posts dried up? It's not like their posting experiences have continually being blighted by YYs?
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UkrainianPhil · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:58 am Post subject:

Hermann, I'm obviously not going to convince you but that's simply NOT TRUE.

And don't you think there is an irony that this debate consists of me debating with you, kingmouse and other YYs and people like AcombDave, York City Forever submit posts to back me up which they know won't get read properly as the YYs steamroller towards UKP.

This thread is a symbol of where this forum has gone wrong. A thread cluttered with the same views of the same people.

Hermann you've been here a long time. If you were oniongravy/gster/reg hedge etc would YOU want to contribute?

If aggravation is what it takes to restore some of this forum's former glories then bring it on - it's worth fighting for for the time being.
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Richard · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:04 pm Post subject:

The problem I see with the idea of banning under-18's from posting in City Chat is that there are many young City fans under the age of 18 who do have something worth-while to say about the club.

Do we then make an exception and say that certain under-18's are allowed to post in CC or do we keep it as a blanket ban until you've reached the age of 18?

I'd have thought the sensible solution would be for a couple more administrators who clamp down on any posting in CC by YY's and they delete any posts that are pointless.

Jack McCoy · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:06 pm Post subject:

UkrainianPhil · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:09 pm Post subject:

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MarkW · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:15 pm Post subject:

What a lot of fuss about nothing.

Gawd, will I be glad when the football kicks off so people can stop getting stroppy about who posts on which board, etc. Strewth............. Rolling Eyes

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Jack McCoy · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:19 pm Post subject:

Let's compromise Phil. This has been one hell of a thread.

YYs causing hell in CC was a problem. Heck, I'll admit I was part of that problem last year and I apologise. Between being wacky and being civilised, I went with the former. The formation of YY, like you've said in the past, has diluted my posting methods to the point where in the last few months I've made little contribution to football threads (sadly, my working hours meaning I miss City games must also be to blame).

However, I like to think that the formation of the YY forum and ENCOURAGING YYs to post in their has led to a seperation that is satisfactory. If posters, YOUNG OR OLD, make a post in a debate that can be about hijacking the topic on hand or is totally irrelevent, it should be removed. Respectable posters who happen to be older are helping instigate hijackings, so it's not just a YY problem.

If I were honest Phil, I would insist that I'm somewhat surprised you think there's a huge problem. I mean, I respect your, AD and YCForever's views but I have addressed and debated agaisnt them, even if you insist I haven't. Perhaps my continual posting on YY has led me away from CC to the point where I haven't noticed any problems, that must be the case.

Encourage the current mods to remove and edit it if it's not relevant and/or it's degrading the discussion at hand. Young Yorkie or Old Guard. That's my view.
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DALEY MAYALL of YE PEST · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:09 pm Post subject:

TheUsualSuspect · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:20 pm Post subject:

What a load of absolute s***e.

Ukrainian Phil, whether intentionally or not, has created an aura in this place that intimidates and deters people from posting, yet somehow it's the under-18s that are the problem. You might be a nice bloke in person, but on here your take-no-prisoners approach comes across as arrogant and infantile.

Here's an idea. Why not stay out of their faces ? I do that and guess what ? I have no problem with the young fans.

Tell you what Phil. How about there's a forum where only you can post and reply. I'd like that. Especially if I was barred from using it.

MarkW · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:27 pm Post subject:

YorkCityForever · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:02 pm Post subject:

El_pats · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:23 pm Post subject:

Oops, posted this in the poll section when I weant to post it here, apologies......
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Phillip, I am now going to start to make a concerted effort to be nicer to you on this forum. You're behaviour certainly suggests that you are not fulfilled in some way and I would hate to think I was contributing to one man's abject misery. Reading some of you posts is like a wander through the mind of the b*****d child of Myra Hindley (with the obvious dislike of the young 'uns) and Norman Bates (obsessive psycho, just that stone hearted desire to kill).

http://yorkcityfc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10709

This thread is only half way down the first page of CC. You will notice that you celebrate your 3000th post on said thread.

You have now racked up 3373 posts.

3373??? 373 posts in under 20 days.

And you accuse others (whatever their age) of flooding this forum with s***e.

Why don't you consider maybe having a short break from posting on this forum (say maybe 'til York are promoted again? ) then maybe you will learn to take it less seriously.

You brag of your depth of life experience, but then if that was the case why do you see fit to posture over this tiresome and unnecessary issue. Seen as you are of a certain age I assume that you have a steady, regular girlfriend. When was the last time that you took her to a restaurant, or to the theatre, or made love? Why don't you put all your life experience in to thinking 'hey, these YY's sure are pesky but hey, they are having a good time, and that makes me smile inwardly.'

I'm going to leave this here as I have been dwelling on this post for almost ten minutes and it is scaring me to think that in some way this makes me like UKP.
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The Post Master General · Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:06 pm Post subject:

Firstly - it's an internet discussion board we are discussing, not something all that important.

I find the idea of segregating by age something that is poor in this scenario. A good example of why under 18s have something to contribute to this board is from posters such as Woody Wilson, El Nombre, Jack McCoy and kingmouse. I would say their posts are better than a lot of much older posters in City Chat. I don't get the idea that someone who is 17 is stupid and has nothing to contribute - and then the second they become 18 they suddenly do. I found a lot of your statements on the travel thread in YY equally bizarre also.

The day your proposal becomes reality is the day I leave this forum, and I would expect a lot to follow suit. In the end the "clique" would be the only ones left - which is no doubt what you want.

If this proposal became reality in effect you would be saying that young people's views are not welcome-This board is only for old people, and that anyone who is young has no place on it.

The thing that makes this forum worth contributing to and reading is the variety of views from all types of City fans. By segregating you are depriving people hearing the views of a significant section of City fans, fans which are instrumental for the future of the club.

I think closer moderating is the answer if needed. Although personally I haven't found the quality of City Chat to be all that much lower in the last few months to what it was when I first joined the forum. It's pre season now, there isn't much to talk about.

Incidentally, for the person that pointed out about the hijacking of the York Minstermen travel thread, if I believe correctly that was hijacked by someone who is actually over 18.

You make a point about people no longer contributing because of the YY - to that I would say perhaps there are other reasons they don't post as much these days. Also there are people who don't contribute because of the cliquey nature of the forum.

UKPhil - stop letting your hatred of young people cloud your judgement on things as pointless as an internet discussion forum.

The forum should stay as it is IMO.

mbeno145 · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 3:00 am Post subject:

Agree entirely with UsualSuspect and PMG, Ukranian Phil is destroying the forum by trying to intimidate the younger members. If Phil is so much of a 'big boy' as he so arrogantly calls himself why is he the first person to start calling people names AND WRITING IN CAPITALS WHEN HE STARTS TO LOSE THE DEBATE.
Grow up Ukranian Phil, you shouldn't need to be banned from YY's just don't go in there if thats how you feel, not everyone feels the same way as you and don't mind YY's posting on City Chat. Oh, and while I'm still on the subject, when did Dobbo become your little puppy dog? (e.g. agreeing with everything you say and having no opinions of his own)
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UkrainianPhil · Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:03 am Post subject:

Nice bit of easy UKP bashing there by some of the forum minutiae.

You can try to attack me personally if you want, I couldn't care less - the point is the same, and a valid one.
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