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 Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 7:34 am Post subject: Svennis Eriksson |
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So Eriksson has a new girl friend and the FA calls an emergency meeting. Ever heard anything this ridiculous? I don't think Svennis would reveal any tactical secrets to that girl and his sex life should be his own business, not FA's 
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This bunch of fine, upstanding, moral gentlemen feel they have a duty to uphold the honour and integrity of the Football Association, just as they always have in the past.
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| This bunch of fine, upstanding, moral gentlemen feel they have a duty to uphold the honour and integrity of the Football Association, just as they always have in the past. |
Very well said.
Sexual intercourse is a bigger crime than theft to the FA!
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Svennis Eriksson |
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| So Eriksson has a new girl friend and the FA calls an emergency meeting. Ever heard anything this ridiculous? I don't think Svennis would reveal any tactical secrets to that girl and his sex life should be his own business, not FA's |
I think they're more interested whether he's a liar, and whether he can be trusted. Plus, he's one of the big faces of English football, and they're probably worried about bad publicity.
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I agree with what Lardmonster has said, plus the fact that he went where the chief exec. had gone before didn't help matters!
Especially when he said it was great once he'd got past the used bit. 
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Well, Im hoping he gets sacked, and then replaces Berti (Mc)Vogts as quickly as possible!! 
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| This bunch of fine, upstanding, moral gentlemen feel they have a duty to uphold the honour and integrity of the Football Association, just as they always have in the past. |
Nah, they're just not getting any themselves
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Alan Curbishly given permission to talk to FA should Sven be sacked.
Whoopie, another Keegan-style failed potential manager regarded as a nice guy.
Bring back Sir Alf. Re-animate his corpse if necessary.
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Sven ???? For a bloke who makes Barry Parker look and sound interesting, he really does get his fair share of top totty. Alright, I know he's on mega bucks, and has more houses then Persimmon, but if he can cop off with all these birds there must be hope for us all.......
Out of interest, are there any decent pervy pics on the net of that F.A. assitant that him and Palio have done ?.......
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Sam Allardyce.
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I heard that Allardyce is 2nd favourite - behind McLaren - as a possible replacement this morning and thought Nooooooo!
What experience does Allardyce have of international or even European football? Bugger all. I respect what he's done at Bolton but it doesn't make him an international manager. Besides, I remember what a dirty fouling b*****d he was as a player (including at BC).
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I heard that Allardyce is 2nd favourite - behind McLaren - as a possible replacement this morning and thought Nooooooo!
What experience does Allardyce have of international or even European football? Bugger all. I respect what he's done at Bolton but it doesn't make him an international manager. Besides, I remember what a dirty fouling b*****d he was as a player (including at BC).
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We need someone like Allardyce to give the players a bollocking when they're playing sh*t, Sven isn't the man. Oh, and someone English would be nice too.
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| UkrainianPhil wrote: |
| Frank wrote: |
| This bunch of fine, upstanding, moral gentlemen feel they have a duty to uphold the honour and integrity of the Football Association, just as they always have in the past. |
Very well said.
Sexual intercourse is a bigger crime than theft to the FA!
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Unless, of course, it's with former friends at boarding school.
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| Sam Allardyce. |
I heard that Allardyce is 2nd favourite - behind McLaren - as a possible replacement this morning and thought Nooooooo!
What experience does Allardyce have of international or even European football? Bugger all. I respect what he's done at Bolton but it doesn't make him an international manager. Besides, I remember what a dirty fouling b*****d he was as a player (including at BC).
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We need someone like Allardyce to give the players a bollocking when they're playing sh*t, Sven isn't the man. Oh, and someone English would be nice too.
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This is what it all boils down to. The press never accepted a foreign manager and they're not going to let this one go. The tabloid press yield massive control over when England managers are to be made redundant. Taylor was a turnip - sacked, Hoddle was a God-botherer - sacked, Keegan was on the verge of a breakdown - sacked, Sven is a Johnny Foreigner - soon to be sacked. Witness Jeff Powell's daily vitriol in the Daily (Hate) Mail every single day since Sven was given the job. Sven was always going to be chased out of this job by the tabloids from day one.
There is an unreasonable level of expectation in this country. There is no divine right that we should win, although Sven finds himself in a position that he is now been hounded out of the job because he did not win it.
Sorry CTID but im with G on this one. Sven is a proven European quality manager, there is not one English born European quality manager. Another thing, Sven didn't hand himself the multi-million pound contract, rightly or wrongly the FA gave him it. Also, if Sven is hounded out then it looks like the FA will go for another foreign manager in Big Phil Scholari.
The facts remain that (with regards to no.s of games won) Sven has an excellent record whilst England manager. Another fact is that Sven is not married, therefore he did not have an 'affair', he just took sloppy seconds on some tart that his mate had boned... is that a crime??
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A first rate and sensible post from ...... El Pats!! and one where I can find nothing to disagree with! 
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Excellent El Pats! I agree. Eriksson has to continue his job, given more time and a DECENT GOALKEEPER(!) England can win something.
Even though he shares the same girl friend with another FA director the association has to keep private things away from this very important job; manager of the greatest international team in the world.
Jimi used to sing Foxy Lady..
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| this very important job; manager of the greatest international team in the world. |
POTW, the tears are streaming onto the keyboard!
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| A first rate and sensible post from ...... El Pats!! and one where I can find nothing to disagree with! |
Why... what were you expecting???
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This is what it all boils down to. The press never accepted a foreign manager and they're not going to let this one go. The tabloid press yield massive control over when England managers are to be made redundant. Sven was always going to be chased out of this job by the tabloids from day one.
There is an unreasonable level of expectation in this country. There is no divine right that we should win, although Sven finds himself in a position that he is now been hounded out of the job because he did not win it.
Sven is a proven European quality manager, there is not one English born European quality manager. Another thing, Sven didn't hand himself the multi-million pound contract, rightly or wrongly the FA gave him it.
The facts remain that (with regards to no.s of games won) Sven has an excellent record whilst England manager. Another fact is that Sven is not married, therefore he did not have an 'affair', he just took sloppy seconds on some tart that his mate had boned... is that a crime?? |
Good points, agree with some and disagree with others.
Basically in my view I really don't care about what goes on in Sven's private life, and if the FA were to sack him about this it would in my opinion be totally wrong.
The point about expectation of winning - this is just my opinion, but I believe that England may well have reached the final in Euro 2004 under a more adventurous manager. The fact is that Sven's tactics are far too negative - they might work in Serie A, where it is possible to get 1-0 up and sit back, but with the quality of international forwards it doesn't work, as proven against both France and Portugal.
Agreed on the points about a lack of an English quality manager. Basically, at the moment, there is no alternative to Sven - he has his faults yes, and we won't win anything whilst he is in charge, but if we solely look at English managers there isn't anyone who's track record is good enough to be honest.
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PMG, I believe that England CAN win something with Svennis in charge. It's true that the tactics were sometimes a bit negative but given a decent goalkeeper and Rio back in the defence his team is very strong. Eriksson has won several trophies and can win another with England. England's record under him is more or less (no, I didn't say loose morals )impressive.
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England needs to wake up. To win something you need a good team, not a team of good players. You've got the players, but from what I've seen they just don't play as a squad often enough.
The pressure you lot mount on all your sporting icons over here is stupid. Tim Henman being talked up for Wimbeldon when he was never going to win. Jenson Button, the Rugby, Cricket. You name it, it's built up and built up to the point where winning is more of a relief.
In Australia okay, we had Lleyton Hewitt and the cricket team and a decent rugby team etc, but the pressure was nowhere near what it is here. We're not winning, the press basically say's we're crap and need to improve. We win one game of something and suddenly we're not expected to win everything - it's a realistic approach.
Someone mentioned the tabloids. We didn't have them in Australia, and I'm surprised at how bad they are over here. 99.9% of them are crap. Non-sensical fiction made to sell more than inform. For them to have as much power as they obviously do casts a dark shadow on the society we currently live in.
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This is what it all boils down to. The press never accepted a foreign manager and they're not going to let this one go. The tabloid press yield massive control over when England managers are to be made redundant. Sven was always going to be chased out of this job by the tabloids from day one.
There is an unreasonable level of expectation in this country. There is no divine right that we should win, although Sven finds himself in a position that he is now been hounded out of the job because he did not win it.
Sven is a proven European quality manager, there is not one English born European quality manager. Another thing, Sven didn't hand himself the multi-million pound contract, rightly or wrongly the FA gave him it.
The facts remain that (with regards to no.s of games won) Sven has an excellent record whilst England manager. Another fact is that Sven is not married, therefore he did not have an 'affair', he just took sloppy seconds on some tart that his mate had boned... is that a crime?? |
Good points, agree with some and disagree with others.
Basically in my view I really don't care about what goes on in Sven's private life, and if the FA were to sack him about this it would in my opinion be totally wrong.
The point about expectation of winning - this is just my opinion, but I believe that England may well have reached the final in Euro 2004 under a more adventurous manager. The fact is that Sven's tactics are far too negative - they might work in Serie A, where it is possible to get 1-0 up and sit back, but with the quality of international forwards it doesn't work, as proven against both France and Portugal.
Agreed on the points about a lack of an English quality manager. Basically, at the moment, there is no alternative to Sven - he has his faults yes, and we won't win anything whilst he is in charge, but if we solely look at English managers there isn't anyone who's track record is good enough to be honest.
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I just think we were beaten by the better team on the night, and not without the help of some dodgy decisions by the officials and a large amount of luck to the Portuguese. Oh and also we had no depth in the squad.
Lets face it, if Sven had either
A: Got England to the final of Euro2004, or
B: Been of English nationality
Then the fact that he rattled some trollop would have been forgotten about as soon as Sven had finished wiping his c*ck on the duvet. 
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I have to say, I can't actually see what the guy has done wrong. Morally, yes, he had an affair, which I'm not condoning, but how does that affect his ability to be England manager?
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| I have to say, I can't actually see what the guy has done wrong. Morally, yes, he had an affair, which I'm not condoning, but how does that affect his ability to be England manager? |
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| I have to say, I can't actually see what the guy has done wrong. Morally, yes, he had an affair, which I'm not condoning, but how does that affect his ability to be England manager? |
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Good point by the Patster (  ) - so, in essence, then, he didn't do anything wrong. At all.
So the FA are doing what exactly?????
For his faults (doesn't attack enough, picks David James) he's the best manager England have had since Bobby Robson, and probably in the top three since Alf Ramsey.
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| Good point by the Patster ( ) - so, in essence, then, he didn't do anything wrong. At all. |
As I understand it he is alleged to have lied to the FA when they asked him about it. Of course, it's none of their business anyway...
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Incidentally - if he was an accountant (which he looks like) how much fanny would he be getting ? Just shows how stupid most women are I think.
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Amen to that brother
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Cue Helen ......
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Amen to that brother
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Cue Helen ......
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Not Helen of course. We said most women.
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