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Woody Wilson
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 2:46 pm    Post subject: Do words even describe? Reply with quote

I swear I am drunk with rage, anguish and every mother fookin emotion excepting joy.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what, if it wasn't only crappy international football, I'd be more enraged than I am now.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

International football is the worst to lose and best to win, everyone is united.

It's like comparing smoking a fag to cannabis.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhh!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woody Wilson wrote:
International football is the worst to lose and best to win, everyone is united.

It's like comparing smoking a fag to cannabis.


i've never touched either so i wouldnt know
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it incredible that you think it hurts more to see England lose than York City. It's great when England win, but I'm over the defeat already pretty much. A club defeat ruins my week. (It hasn't been a good year...)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TBH I get more angry and mad when York lose. I ain't happy bout the England loss but a York loss I find to be worse.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

janesy wrote:
Woody Wilson wrote:
International football is the worst to lose and best to win, everyone is united.

It's like comparing smoking a fag to cannabis.


i've never touched either so i wouldnt know


Neither have I but I gather one has considerably more effect on the mind than the other. As does international and club football.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just personal opinion, but while an international loss hurts more to begin with, the pain of a club loss lasts longer. Although when York lose I know that there are plenty of other games left in the season to put things right.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James is a f**king sh*te goalkeeper. Henry would never have scored if he hadn't fouled him.

Robinson is a much better keeper. Play him next time.

I've never been so gutted after an England game before. The fact that they scored 2 goals in stoppage time is truly crap. Anyone here remember York vs Millwall the season we went down? It was like that, except in reverse.

And what about the ridiculous decision to play Scholes on the left? Talk about playing players out of position. It's as if Brass has taken over as England manager.

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Lampard's our best attacking midfielder. Give him Scholes' role. Drop Scholes, he's sh*te. 4-4-2, with Bridge and Cole down the left, proper left sided players who have a left foot, unlike Scholes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We lost because of 2 sh*te players
EMILE HESKEY (Who souldnt of been on the planw out to Portugal)
and of course David James (Warrington can do a better job)
I feel like cr*P i nearlly took my anger out on the tv i screamed the house down and i threw plates, i was in a terrible mood.
Svens a cr*p manager, how can he think Heskeys good enough for the England squad and why is he to defense minded and why didnt he critisise any of the other rated players in our squad.
Me thinks the players dont give a toss about Euro 2004 and just want to get to that beach now Evil or Very Mad Afterall there not getting paid Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SHUT UP TRUE FAITH
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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James is a f**king sh*te goalkeeper. Henry would never have scored if he hadn't fouled him.

Robinson is a much better keeper. Play him next time.

I've never been so gutted after an England game before. The fact that they scored 2 goals in stoppage time is truly crap. Anyone here remember York vs Millwall the season we went down? It was like that, except in reverse.

And what about the ridiculous decision to play Scholes on the left? Talk about playing players out of position. It's as if Brass has taken over as England manager.

Rolling Eyes Embarassed Rolling Eyes Embarassed

Lampard's our best attacking midfielder. Give him Scholes' role. Drop Scholes, he's sh*te. 4-4-2, with Bridge and Cole down the left, proper left sided players who have a left foot, unlike Scholes.
What in the f***ing hell are you yapping on about? REALLY? We were f***ing MINT for 90 minutes and outplayed the French at everything they threw at us. Rooney went in with NO FEAR. Scholes played very well. I can't believe you're blaming James for that penalty, because that's just pathetic. He did well with everything the French gave him, which was very little yes, but he coped well. So stop blaming a good keeper for having a decent game. Christ. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

agreed,

advice to everyone!!, dont watch an important england match in the pub with cuza!! he is one negative bugger!! his predictions are nearly allways rite tho
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Herman the Tosser wrote:
We were f***ing MINT for 90 minutes and outplayed the French at everything they threw at us. Rooney went in with NO FEAR. Scholes played very well. I can't believe you're blaming James for that penalty, because that's just pathetic. He did well with everything the French gave him, which was very little yes, but he coped well. So stop blaming a good keeper for having a decent game.


Don't agree at all.

The French had 90% of the attacking play in the second half. So how can you say we outplayed them?

I still think we are a better side than them if we play to our potential, but we didn't last night.

Agreed on Rooney, he was excellent, and also I thought King was great, and in fact the back 4 all played very well. BUT that can't hide some of the performances which were very poor. Scholes was absymal, and how can anyone think Heskey is an international player? Beckham was pretty average as well for his standards.

Pathetic to blame James for the penalty? How I saw it is that the French striker was going away from goal, he would have had a very difficult angle to score from. The chances of him scoring from that angle were a lot lower than a penalty. The problem with James is he makes mistakes like that which will ultimately cost England games. I still think Robinson is a much better keeper.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

True-Faith wrote:
We lost because of 2 sh*te players
EMILE HESKEY (Who souldnt of been on the planw out to Portugal)
and of course David James (Warrington can do a better job)
I feel like cr*P i nearlly took my anger out on the tv i screamed the house down and i threw plates, i was in a terrible mood.
Svens a cr*p manager, how can he think Heskeys good enough for the England squad and why is he to defense minded and why didnt he critisise any of the other rated players in our squad.
Me thinks the players dont give a toss about Euro 2004 and just want to get to that beach now Evil or Very Mad Afterall there not getting paid Rolling Eyes


Wrong again T-F!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Post Master General quoting kingmouse wrote:
And what about the ridiculous decision to play Scholes on the left? Talk about playing players out of position. It's as if Brass has taken over as England manager.

Rolling Eyes Embarassed Rolling Eyes Embarassed

Lampard's our best attacking midfielder. Give him Scholes' role. Drop Scholes, he's sh*te. 4-4-2, with Bridge and Cole down the left, proper left sided players who have a left foot, unlike Scholes.


Is that not exactly what I said to you last night?? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't agree at all, it's too easy to put your head in the clouds and ignore the fact that England, playing as they are at the moment, are a very ordinary team, and the team selections aren't very good. There is no way we will win this tournament, or even get to the next stage, unless things are changed around.

The French had 90% of the attacking play in the second half. So how can you say we outplayed them?
You play to your strengths. It so happens that England's strength is a good defensive mindset, with decent defenders and a tough tackling midfield. We played to that strength. It's all well and good having 90& of the attacking play in the second half, but France were reduced to giving the ball to Vieira and Zidane and having them ping it into the box from 40 yards which out defence just easily got rid. Yes it was nerve wracking, but France were clueless on what to do.

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I still think we are a better side than them if we play to our potential, but we didn't last night.
No. Our strength is our defence. Don't let any tabloid or ITV analyst tell you otherwise.

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Agreed on Rooney, he was excellent, and also I thought King was great, and in fact the back 4 all played very well. BUT that can't hide some of the performances which were very poor. Scholes was absymal, and how can anyone think Heskey is an international player? Beckham was pretty average as well for his standards.
They should have kept Rooney on, only taking him off if he received a yellow. Scholes was out of position, but he still played some nice passes and got involved in some movements. Heskey, meh.

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Pathetic to blame James for the penalty? How I saw it is that the French striker was going away from goal, he would have had a very difficult angle to score from. The chances of him scoring from that angle were a lot lower than a penalty. The problem with James is he makes mistakes like that which will ultimately cost England games. I still think Robinson is a much better keeper.
James didn't stand a chance with that hellish backpass. When you have Henry, most likely in the top three best players in the world, running at you in a 50 50 ball, you don't have much choice but to rush in. France were going to score there, there's no debate. If Henry had gotten that ball then, it was over. James isn't international class, but it's rather hypocritical to think that Robinson is. He's a good keeper, but I seriously rate James more for the England job - he's shown he's able to do it. Spectacular save against Turkey at the Stadium of Light, anyone?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you completely Herman on David James. I said something similar to that on a different thread.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What wages are they on for playing for England then Rolling Eyes
Some of the players out there are good but just god damn bone idol Evil or Very Mad
Thats was really p*sses me off Evil or Very Mad
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Bone idol hahah! Must ask Crufts if they want to glam up their show a bit and rename it to that...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last night's match was pretty irrelevant. If England can't beat Switzerland and Croatia, they don't deserve to get past the group stage anyway. One thing it showed me was that the winner will come from elsewhere, as both teams were pretty awful.

As for blaming David James, shut the fuck up. The thing we should be blaming is Emile Heskey, because it was his stupid clumsy challenge that gave away the free kick at the end. Gerrard's backpass was strange, but the damage had already been done. At least the public won't be hyping up our chances after a mediocre performance, which they would have done if we had held on at 1-0, which could prove to be a good thing in the long run.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHY IS EMILE HESKEY IN THE ENGLAND SQUAD, Can anyone think of some posative attributes he has, i cant Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WHY IS EMILE HESKEY IN THE ENGLAND SQUAD, Can anyone think of some posative attributes he has, i cant Rolling Eyes


Emile’s main asset has always been his strength. He always looked far more comfortable with the ball played into his feet, where he could hold off a defender with ease, turn quickly, and run at the heart of the defense. He helps the defense out by tracking back all ways putting in 110%.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry but i blame Heskey for yesterday. He is clumsy, falls over, dopey, slow to react and cannot score. We want Defeo or Smith in the England squad Evil or Very Mad
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Sorry but i blame Heskey for yesterday. He is clumsy, falls over, dopey, slow to react and cannot score. We want Defeo or Smith in the England squad Evil or Very Mad




Why do you want Defeo in?? I know he's scored 14 goals this season for Witham Town Football Club but he is hardly England material!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must of miss understoud me, i mean Defoe of Tottenham Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emile's always had a turning circle the size of South America, but he still is a valuable foil for Michael Owen.

Now, Owen wasn't on the pitch when Heskey came on...
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The words Heskey and Valuable do not go together Mad
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